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Why is MN pro-labour?

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CanNeverDecide · 04/05/2010 23:19

I'm relatively new here, only posted a couple of times.

Not hard to notice it's all a bit hard core left on here...

Why is that? Genuinely curious to know why this particular cohort of people that have come together are pretty much all left wing.

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TDiddy · 04/05/2010 23:48

It's not i think but Labour (Harriet harman for example) did more for women

animula · 04/05/2010 23:50

And because it is so reasoned, humorous, and otherwise mnemonic, it just seems as though there are more of us.

longfingernails · 04/05/2010 23:50

Greensleeves

That's a rather blinkered thing to say.

There are plenty of very intelligent, and very compassionate, people in all parties. There are also utter tosspots across the spectrum.

claig · 04/05/2010 23:51

easily influenced by the spin doctors, brainwashed

atlantis · 04/05/2010 23:52

" but Labour (Harriet harman for example) did more for women "

Yes, she's such a paragon of the feminist cause isn't she parachhuting her old man into a safe seat over the 'preferred' list.

atlantis · 04/05/2010 23:53

" brainwashed "

Yes, I blame the uni's let's close them down.

Molesworth · 04/05/2010 23:55

Aww atlantis, you were being lovely earlier on about Gordon's speech: don't spoil it

GrimmaTheNome · 04/05/2010 23:59

There's also our age to take into account. Mostly on the low side of 50.

There's a saying something like "If you are not a socialist when you are twenty, then there is something wrong with your heart. But, if you are still a socialist when you are forty, then there is something wrong with your head."

atlantis · 04/05/2010 23:59

"Aww atlantis, you were being lovely earlier on about Gordon's speech: don't spoil it "

I like to give credit where it's due and Gordon gave a awesome speech to the Citizen UK convention.

I can't give any credit to dear old harriet as I think she set the course of women's rights and feminism back at least twenty years, mention femanism and most people now treat you like a leaper IRL, all that's to her.

Sorry just my opinion.

atlantis · 05/05/2010 00:01

Gimma,

(and yes I know i'm setting myself up for this but hey ho..)

I've been a conservative for most of my life (now 42) with a brief fling with the dark side in 97, what does that make me??

(go on reaaaaalllllt let me have it !)

Tashtodd · 05/05/2010 00:01

I'm a Tory voter - always have been - not shy to say so. I remember power cuts in the early seventies going to school 3 days a week (no heating oil) and doing homework by candlelight when the power went off. I also remember the Thacher years well. She had her faults but I've always thought the Tories were the party of aspiration in this country. I'm sure others will disagree but I feel that the Labour party does not like Britain or its people very much. I don't feel there is much to be proud of anymore. Quite sad really

Molesworth · 05/05/2010 00:02

Respect to you for giving respect across party political boundaries where it's due

You're very wrong about HH's role in the feminism backlash though, I'm afraid.

atlantis · 05/05/2010 00:06

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Ohh, come out, but thank you.

I think we should all be a little more honest about the fact that other parties can have their good MP's, Policies and moments (except for the Lib Dems cos their all nuts).

I can't possibly be wrong about HH, the DM agree with me.

Molesworth · 05/05/2010 00:09

We must agree to disagree about HH. But yes of course there are some good people in all parties (well, apart from loonies in the BNP and the like of course)

TDiddy · 05/05/2010 00:43

atlantis - already pointed out to you that HH old man, Jack Dromey (spelling) is an influenetial ex head of a union so he doesn't need her help to get a seat. so i think that criticism is out of not fair as you don't tell the whole story. ...and the point is whether she did good for women with her legislation

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 05/05/2010 00:46

Spidermama, Greensleeves - I am a caring, thinking, decent woman, and I have more brain power than a geranium. And I vote Tory.

The majority of the mud-slinging on here has been going left to right, why not have a think about that for a moment.

estuardo · 05/05/2010 01:01

alibaba you are so right. I cant get over the public arrogance of some labour voters ( and I vote labour).
Their arrogance is a downright embarrassment

animula · 05/05/2010 01:17

Sorry.

I took it to be a slightly "playful" and contentious thread. Apologies if it comes across as smugly arrogant. Will step away.

TDiddy · 05/05/2010 01:19

animula is nice and very funny. Nice of her/him to apologise

animula · 05/05/2010 01:25

Genuinely, though, there are a lot, very many, non-left, non-centrist, views on mn at the moment.

I think it's interesting that CND hasn't noticed these.

And I think the "vociferousness" of "left"-ness is down to the fact that we are gathered on one thread, having a little huddle away from a fairly hostile mainstream media. Who'd begrudge us that little space?

I did take this thread as baiting - and responded accordingly. But, hey, it's the bigger action not to do that.

I suppose I still bear the wounds of all those awful years where "lefties" were called all sorts of things, from "bleeding hearts" to "losers" - it wasn't nice. It's a genuine worry that all that's due a return. Let's hope not.

animula · 05/05/2010 01:27

TDiddy - you too.

expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 01:45

Only read the OP.

Yesterday was my first day to ever vote in a UK election.

I voted Lib Dem.

My husband voted SNP.

I was not here when last there was a Tory party, but for me and all my research, their policies reminded me of every reason I turned my back on my beloved native country over 9 years ago, but even worse for not having a real clue why things are how they are there.

Yesterday I had my first encounter with a person who referred to me and my family as 'fucking Scottish' and like we counted for nothing.

My three beautiful children. My oldest, her long hair getting gold streaks from what sun there is and her nose and cheeks full of freckles on her milk white skin so light you can see all the blue of her veins, 'He'll see her from behind first, the duke's molten-faced heir. It's more her country than his. She is keening, but you call it singing now. And her hair will have the colour and flow of honey and her eyes are the colour of the grass. . .'

He left without saying goodbye, him. How very rude!

I'm not 'fucking Scottish' because I don't vote Tory, or at all. I'm no doler, we work for our living here, however we are poor, far from anything DC or any of his ilk can even be bothered to visit, much less understand.

None of them would last a month here. So why would I vote for them?

TDiddy · 05/05/2010 01:50

thanks animula

expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 01:51

Indeed, animula

TDiddy · 05/05/2010 01:59

i have a lot of friends who are Tory and understand their perspective. I often think that their's is narrower than mine but they are nice people. DC and wife strike me as very nice people even though i won't vote for them. Costs me nothing to say so.

atlantis - i like constructive political dialogue like yours above. HH has done loads though. Check her recent work on equality. She has stuck with her mission and delivered for women. She is one who will not look back with regret. I like her when she was a younger flower as well. She is still a nice lady whatever the demonising that passes in the press