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Depressed lefties sign in here...

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WilfSell · 02/05/2010 20:20

...on the grounds that if we assume there will be a Tory govt, then the crowing triumphalism of all the Chinless Wonders and Thrusting Monetarists and Nasty Racists who'll poke in here to crow and gloat, will somehow force a cosmic rift in the time-space continuum. And it will be like 1992 all over again but the other way round.

I fear the best we can hope for is a hung parliament.

I've suggested hemlock for the Election Night supper thread...

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CatIsSleepy · 05/05/2010 10:15

'Chin up all, I think this election will bring surprises'

i do hope so 100x

a few months ago it seemed a tory victory was more or less inevitable and the surge of the lib dems has been a nice surprise

oh i don't need more stuff to be depressed about, just found out today dd1 didn't get the school place we wanted so I am feeling sorry for myself. So I need gordon to win damnit!

abr1de · 05/05/2010 10:17

'the crowing triumphalism of all the Chinless Wonders and Thrusting Monetarists and Nasty Racists who'll poke in here to crow and gloat'

I'm not any of these. I have a good chin line, don't believe in monetarism and I'm not a racist.

As usual the Left have to resort to insulting people to indicate dissent. Should we label you all as war-mongers? Or liars?

LeninGrad · 05/05/2010 10:18

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ahundredtimes · 05/05/2010 10:25

Agh. She's trading in rude generalizations for fun abr1de. I don't think it's seriously meant.

Label me a war mongerer if it'll make you feel better though. I'm big enough

ahundredtimes · 05/05/2010 10:30

Sorry about school place CIS. Will you appeal?

gingercat12 · 05/05/2010 10:36

Is anybody listening to Radio 5 Live? Is Gordon any good? Am at work, and do not have a head phone. Plus I spend my days listening to them ALL THE TIME. My DH is football mad. So am I, but this is just too much. Sorry, I digress .

CatIsSleepy · 05/05/2010 10:38

oh bless you 100x, I don't know...I don't think anyone has ever won one at this school! will put her on the waiting list. It is a lovely school, she is at the nursery there, has a great little group of buddies, I have made some good friends among the parents...oh lord better stop or I'll start blubbing again!

sorry this is very much off-topic...thank god there's an election to distract me from my self-pity

GO gordon, don't give up!

monkeysmama · 05/05/2010 10:44

I have a different dilemma. I am in a safe inner London Labour seat. I'd always voted Labour until the last election. I am very unhappy with Labour at a national level.

I am anti war and I cannot forget the lies over WMD. All three main parties agree with severe public service cuts - I don't. I am appalled that in a time of major economic crisis the fortunes of the richest people in the country have gone up by 30% and the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and bigger.

I've spent a lot of time recently out in Barking leafletting against the BNP and there is a hell of a lot of anger at Labour which I've found it hard to answer.

I cannot face a Tory government but don't know if I can bring myself to vote Labour again. I feel like I have no choice.

ahundredtimes · 05/05/2010 10:44

Yes ginger, he was really good, I thought so. Very honest and straight. He did well.

CIS - dang. What's the school you've been offered like? fwiw - when they start reception, and go to Y1 etc, honestly, their friendships do change, and it's quite possible she'd have a whole new host of friends by half term anyway. I know it's nice to have a familiar face, but new friends come in droves in reception and onwards. Honestly.
Have found the same with starting secondary school.

elkiedee · 05/05/2010 10:44

Thank you to OP for starting this thread. I'm definitely a Depressed Leftie already, even if I don't wake to a Tory government or a Tory Libdem coalition in the next few days, not to mention the possibility of a Lib Dem Council - my boyfriend works for a Lib Dem Council which is making 25 teaching assistants (I think out of 27) redundant in just one school - job losses and what's that going to do to those kids' education?

vesela · 05/05/2010 10:48

monkeysmama - Lib Dems know we need to cut the deficit, but by means of structural changes if that's the right term - changing the way we spend - avoiding cuts to frontline services as far as humanly possible.

Molesworth · 05/05/2010 10:50

here's something to feed our depression

"Remember 1983? I warn you that a Cameron victory will be just as bad"

CatIsSleepy · 05/05/2010 10:53

what about your local MP monekysmama? do you see them as someone good, who deserves your vote? fwiw i feel our local labour is a good man who cares about the area and labour generally have done a lot of good where I live (eg lots of children's centres etc)

(100x-am trying to see the positives! the school she's been offered is decent, the facilities are not as good but I think they do well for the children with what they have. i guess i am struggling with guilt over the whole situation because when she goes to school in september we will also need to find a childminder too and it's just so much change at once.aargh)

monkeysmama · 05/05/2010 10:57

I have mixed feelings about Labour locally but on the whole am not unhappy with them (rather than being pleased with them iyswim).

gingercat12 · 05/05/2010 11:01

100X thanks a lot

PfftTheMagicDragon · 05/05/2010 11:05

no, abr1de, liars is what we call Tories.

Do keep up.

Fennel · 05/05/2010 11:09

I shouldn't be posting on this thread according to the title but am I the only leftie who's feeling quite chirpy? A year ago everyone seemed to be quite clear that this election would be a conservative win. And now, it's very likely they'll win but not nearly as definite as it was predicted to be before the last few weeks, and there's much more chance of a hung parliament and no clear tory majority, and the likelihood of electoral reform which means we might be able to vote for minority leftie parties in future. I think that's actually quite good, considering.

(skips off merrily into the spring sunshine)

ZephirineDrouhin · 05/05/2010 11:14

In case anyone is not depressed enough

ZephirineDrouhin · 05/05/2010 11:16

Oh, I see Molesworth beat me to it.

Worth reading though.

mrsruffallo · 05/05/2010 11:18

Am I too optimistic?
Most people I know will still vote Labour..I think they may still win

WilfSell · 05/05/2010 11:20

Oh come on abride, spare us a bit of gallows humour won't you?

Anyhow, GB's citizenship speech was apparently the most watched on Youtube yesterday!

And today some Tory's had to put foot in mouth saying Muslim MPs have no morals. But funnily enough, the Murdoch Machines are not running with that story. I wonder whether Nick 'Tories R Us' Robinson will be reporting THAT on the BBC tonight. Hmm?

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rubyrubyruby · 05/05/2010 11:22

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gingercat12 · 05/05/2010 11:23

My DH is with Fennel. He seems to think that Tories only gained a point or two so far on the previous election according to the latest polls, and the rest is just media spin. I hope he is right this time.

This article by Gary Younge is also quite thought-provoking

Molesworth · 05/05/2010 11:27

That Gary Younge article is good. Articulates my own feelings quite well

elkiedee · 05/05/2010 11:38

At least there's already nearly 500 posts on here.

monkeysmama, what is the record of your local Labour candidate? What policies does he/she support.

I'm voting for my local Labour MP for the first time. It's a fairly safe seat and I'd quite like to vote for the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition candidate (1 parliamentary, 1 of 3 council seats). The Green Party parliamentary candidate is a friend of a friend and I used to live a few doors down the road from her. So either of those would be an option, but... given the comments of the last couple of weeks, I want Labour to get a reasonable percentage of the vote in the General Election.