Consider this.....please???......I'm worried for our future

[LakeDistrictLardArse]

It appears most people have the view that all parties are pretty much the same and lets face it we don?t really trust any of them that much.

However there does seem to be an overriding difference between the three parties that stands out a mile and that has a huge impact on us all i.e. it appears that only the Conservatives believes that we should have freedom and that the state should not control our lives, for example:

1. That the state should not take more and more of our hard earned money and decide how it is spent (and very often spend it far less efficiently than us)
2. That the state should not be allowed to tell us what we can or cannot do every minute of the day (and then ironically not deal very well with crime).
3. That the state should not tie us all up in ever increasing red tape and legislation whether you are a business, a teacher, a medical professional, a Police officer etc. etc.
4. That the state should not take it upon themselves to give away our sovereignty and rights to Europe without asking us first (and lets not forget the many who died in wars fighting for our rights and sovereignty).
5. The list goes on and on.

If the above is important to us it appears that the Conservatives are the only choice.
We know what Labour are about in terms of the state (we have seen it in practice for 13 years) and it looks like the Liberals are no different (just hopefully a lot nicer, cleaner and charming about it). PS I am not a troll btw just in case you were wondering

Lilmissummy is right. I freely admit to being a Leftie. But I find myself nodding my head and agreeing with Atlantis about tax credits. I agree with claig about too much state intervention etc. However the difference is they present cognent, well reasoned arguments, can back up their statements and most important of all, conduct their arguments with a certain amount of wit and mutual respect.

The OP on the other hand, rushed in, threw around a bunch of illogical statements then stamped her foot whenever anyone pointed out the inconsistencies to her.

Who want's a one party state? The country benefits from having different viewpoints, robustly argued. It's the descent into sloganeering that bothers me. That and the implied assumption that because we are mothers we won't understand the complexities of economics and are only really interested in fluffier subjects.

agree, slug.

yes Claig I think it just all went very wrong from the outset...we were hostile for a reason, I think...it was just never going tobe a great thread the way it was started. Perhapd you or someone else could start another based more on what you have just outlined, I agree it would be interesting.