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Anyone else shocked by Cameron's comment last night or is it just me?!

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andagain · 16/04/2010 09:32

Attempting to answer the very first question last night, the immigration one, Cameron said:
"I was in Plymouth recently and a black man told me that immigration is out of control in this country"! I fail to see what does the race of the man have anything to do with the statement unless: a) Cameron assumes that all black people must be immigrants in one way or another or b) he is just so proud of himself for managing to talk to a black man that he had to share it.

I really am gobsmacked!

And then he moved on to confusing China with North Korea when talking about the need for Trident as protection from rogue nuclear states!

Anyone else smells racism?!

OP posts:
daftpunk · 16/04/2010 21:43

Loving your posts Lincstash....

Downdog · 16/04/2010 21:45

I'm an immigrant - from NZ & have white skin. I'm amazed how many people go on about the 'immigrant issue' to me without even considering me to be an immigrant.

Immigration issues around at the moment just seem to be veiled racisim - what they really mean aren't all immigrants (I appear to be perfectly respectable being white & from NZ) and am therefore largely acceptable), but people who speak differently and/or are a different colour.

TheFallenMadonna · 16/04/2010 21:47

Ah now it's not just in schools...

I indoctrinate my children into my own particular politically correct, bleeding heart liberal politics at home too

MountTheFairy · 16/04/2010 21:50

lincstash why would you assume we vote labour? That is the first false assumption you make. I, personally, am going to vote Lib Dem. I am not going to get into a debate about labour as I have no cause to defend them, but if you talk about honesty, do you really think that any of them made any throw away remarks last night? I think they are all better trained / advised than that.

lincstash · 16/04/2010 22:02

Well if you vote libdem, your voting labour. The practical real world effect of your vote may be to create a hung parliment , which then gives labour the first refusal to retain government. So you may be voting libdem in theory, but in practice labour will benefit from your vote. You might as well vote labour in practice.

Habbibu · 16/04/2010 22:05

Downdog, indeed. My grandparents were Irish immigrants - wasn't that long ago that "No Irish" was listed alongside "no blacks" in notices letting rooms, was it?

kalo12 · 16/04/2010 22:08

lincstash - what makes you think cameron has got any integrity?

cornsilk · 16/04/2010 22:08

I think lincstash is a tory invader.

chandellina · 16/04/2010 22:09

i winced for him for saying it, but only because in this country people seem to think black is a dirty word. In the US it would be no big deal.

daftpunk · 16/04/2010 22:10

Who cares?...she's doing a brilliant job on MN

cornsilk · 16/04/2010 22:11

Not really - she/he's so obvious.

Habbibu · 16/04/2010 22:13

A hung parliament is affected by the minority parties - that's been the experience here in Scotland, so not, the net effect is not the same as voting for labour.

MountTheFairy · 16/04/2010 22:13

I think Lib Dems can win if that theory of Lib Dem = Labour stops being pushed, or at least believed, because Tories are, of course, going to push it. I know you are a tory, so no point trying to pursuade you. I am talking to others out there who may vote Lib Dem but are worried about the hung parliament.

daftpunk · 16/04/2010 22:14

Isn't it to be expected....?

Haven't come across any Labour/Liberal invaders..

(not saying lincstash is an invader btw)

Habbibu · 16/04/2010 22:15

no, not not. Not that the correction makes any more sense!

cornsilk · 16/04/2010 22:16

Yes tobe expected but a bit desperate.Like those childish tory posters with pictures of GB on and snidy comments.

daftpunk · 16/04/2010 22:19

You have to be obvious though don't you, no point being a political invader and hanging out on the chicken keeper threads....

Political invaders have a job to do, invade!

Habbibu · 16/04/2010 22:21

Tangential, but did anyone hear the discussion on R4 with Scottish politicians about the experience of minority govt in Scotland? It was really interesting.

lincstash · 16/04/2010 22:29

"By kalo12 Fri 16-Apr-10 22:08:26
lincstash - what makes you think cameron has got any integrity? "

You have evidence to the contrary? You didnt know Blair had any or not, yet you all voted for him on spec. Whats the difference here?

There's certainly a mass of evidence to damn every single member of the labour cabinet for the last 10 years in that respect.

Bumbleconfusus · 16/04/2010 22:45

why is everyone focusing on one word which DC mentioned, and not focusing on the poor plans the other two were discussing re-immigration, perhaps he would have been better stating what country/continent the man was from? There was GB proudly stating he'd stopped 40,000 foreign uni students entering (who often pay over double than UK students), unfortunately this is not just for fake institutions, it for all institutions, and as I work for a uni, I know many of our jobs are on the line because of this. And never mind the chef comment... As for NC saying that he'd have regional visas, its hard enough to police them as they are for goodness sake, his plan is unworkable.

chandellina · 16/04/2010 23:10

no one seemed to pick up on immigrants and foreign university applicants possibly avoiding the UK in the last couple years because Labour wrecked the economy and there's not much for them to look forward to here.

kalo12 · 16/04/2010 23:21

lincstash - i don't think Blair had much integrity, but I do think Gordon Brown has. I fail to see the attraction of DC - seems like a half-wit to me.

AitchTwoZone · 16/04/2010 23:29

yes i did habs, it actually made me start to hope for a hung parly.

animula · 16/04/2010 23:30

Go on - share habbs and aitch.

AitchTwoZone · 16/04/2010 23:38

well, the downside is that some good stuff gets watered down, apparently, but of course how good it is is in the eye of the beholder.

on balance, i think most of them thought it had been a good thing, though, cut back on the posturing and wankery and forced them all to get together on things and move FORWARD together etc.