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Anyone else shocked by Cameron's comment last night or is it just me?!

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andagain · 16/04/2010 09:32

Attempting to answer the very first question last night, the immigration one, Cameron said:
"I was in Plymouth recently and a black man told me that immigration is out of control in this country"! I fail to see what does the race of the man have anything to do with the statement unless: a) Cameron assumes that all black people must be immigrants in one way or another or b) he is just so proud of himself for managing to talk to a black man that he had to share it.

I really am gobsmacked!

And then he moved on to confusing China with North Korea when talking about the need for Trident as protection from rogue nuclear states!

Anyone else smells racism?!

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ZephirineDrouhin · 16/04/2010 23:38

That is interesting. Am hoping (albeit slightly anxiously) for hung parliament.

Didn't hear this gem from Cameron last night. I am bewildered as to how anyone could even contemplate voting for him.

lincstash · 16/04/2010 23:40

@ kalo12

I can produce a big long list of lies told by Brown, hes a liar with no integrity at all, hell tell you want you want to hear then do the opposite, just like Blair.

No member of the current government is fit to hold public office.

animula · 16/04/2010 23:47

Hello Zepherine.

I think I'm exactly the same - finding myself (slightly anxiously) hoping for a hung parliament. The inclusion of brackets v. important.

That's good to hear, Aitch. Quite positive, in fact.

marytontie · 16/04/2010 23:50

well of course it was relevant he was a black man

motherducky · 17/04/2010 12:07

pmsl, I heard it and thought it was typical Daily Mail racist-but-pretending-not-to-be trash tbh, it made me stop listening and wait for the next person to start talking, so I didn't notice the 40year old/ 30years gaffe, although he definately said that he came here at 6.

Bet he doesn't exist :D

Always makes me and when these non-racists assume I must be British born because I am white with a british accent, and when they find out otherwise are momentarily surprised and in thier confusion blurt out "oh well thats okay, you're one of us really, you're not trying to enforce islamic law on us/sell drugs/etc etc etc" Shows them up everytime.

Bumbleconfusus · 17/04/2010 13:38

motherducky are you referring to Daily Mail readers or conservative voters when you say 'non-racists'. ...Muslims/drug dealers (can't believe you put those two things in the same sentence?????!!!!!!) Your post is judgemental in itself.

Coolfonz · 17/04/2010 14:10

Linctash - can you learn to spell our language please, you sound like a recent immi... oh hold on.

PARLIAMENT
YOUR
YOU'RE
HE'S
HE'LL

Yours,
Joe Stalin.

SusanSocks · 17/04/2010 15:12

bumblecon.
did you not read what motherduck said,
it was in quotes.

Bumbleconfusus · 17/04/2010 16:00

well if everyone seems to be questioning DC's quotes, then i can question motherducky's 'quote'. There is no evidence anyone ever said that to her, she could easily be making it up.
And again my question remains of who exactly is motherducky referring to when saying 'non-racists?'.

motherducky · 17/04/2010 20:52

hee hee bumble, thank you susansocks for pointing out the quotes!

You are of course completely right Bumble I am being judgemental of Daily Mail readers and indeed David Cameron. I really should NOT judge Daily Mail readers on the basis of what they read and then too many of them spout to be fact or reasonable thinking, I do obviously know that there are also many reasonable Daily Mail readers out there, unfortunately they are not as noticable, so I was hoping my generalisation would be understood as a way to save on words rather than a sweeping dig at ALL Daily Mail Readers. I am also very sorry for judging David Cameron on what he says. For all that I am truly sorry.

motherducky · 17/04/2010 20:56

stir stir stir

(Seriously, I don't really have anything against the vast majority of Daily Mail readers before you all shoot me, it's the avid Sun readers we really need to watch out for! Sorry I don't know what's got into me tonight! :D)

crystal123 · 18/04/2010 21:49

Hey, what's wrong with the Daily Mail, bloody good paper!

Coolfonz · 19/04/2010 00:37

TORY leader David Cameron got his maths and his message wrong, says the Plymouth man referred to in this week's historic televised leaders debate.

Speaking about immigration to an audience of nine million viewers, Mr Cameron said: "I was in Plymouth recently and a 40-year-old black man... said, 'I came here when I was six, I've served in the Royal Navy for 30 years. I'm incredibly proud of my country. But I'm so ashamed that we've had this out-of-control (immigration) system with people abusing it so badly'."

The man referred to was Plymouth businessman Neal Forde, aged 51.

He told The Herald that he was teased by his workmates yesterday morning.

"I don't mind. At least he took 10 years off my age," said Mr Forde.

"And he said I spent 30 years in the Navy. I was actually in for six years, as a marine engineer serving on HMS Intrepid and HMS Berwick."

Mr Forde was involved in the Icelandic 'Cod Wars' in the late 1970s and left the service in 1980. After 25 years with Marine Projects, he set up his kitchen worktops business, Surface Solutions, in Plymouth.

Mr Forde said none of the parties had the right answers on immigration. "Britain needs immigrants. It's a rich and diverse country with a heritage to be proud of. What I find unacceptable is that the politicians ? Labour, Tory, I can't say Lib-Dem because they haven't been in power ? seem to care more about everybody else and forget the British people."

Mr Forde came to Britain from Barbados at the age of six. He said his parents 'did the right thing ? went to the consulate and got a visa, did everything by the book'.

"In the 1970s and 1980s in Plymouth, there weren't a great many black people and it was hard for us, but we ? Ken (Nairne, his business partner) and our Navy friends ? stayed here and got married and had our children.

"We paid our taxes and did everything right," he said.

"In the past eight years, we have had a lot of other black people coming in and destroying everything we've built up.

"As a black person, I feel the backlash. A friend who has fought two wars for this country was called an asylum- seeker. People can't distinguish.

"Every time a crime is committed by a black person, it reflects on all of us."

Mr Forde said there should be one law for everyone in the country.

He had not yet made up his mind who to vote for in the general election, which he said was 'pivotal'.

"Britain is a great country. What I want the politicians to tell me is what they are going to do to safeguard the British people from the immigrants who come here and commit serious crimes."

Tortington · 19/04/2010 00:42

Belittling someones spelling and grammar is actually a poor counter argument. it makes you looks petty.

i noticed it was done on another thread too - to the same poster (who has views which are neither here not there to me quite frankly) but in reading this thread, i felt it had to be said.

Bumbleconfusus · 19/04/2010 00:44

I like that the man discussed isn't stuck on the fact that colour was mentioned, and has focused on the immigration proposals. Some MNers could learn alot.
PS - seems he exists after all

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