Home Secretary criticises migrant landings as unacceptable

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Home secretary hits out at 'unacceptable' migrant landings.

Shabana Mahmood told Border Security Command to carry out the review after vessels came ashore at Samphire Hoe, between Dover and Folkestone, on Tuesday, and near Folkestone on Monday.

Twenty-one people were detained on Tuesday after the arrival at Samphire Hoe.
Five people were also detained on Monday, after the uncontrolled landing near Folkestone, the first undetected landing for a year. The Home Office has not said whether more people are being sought.

@JimBobsWife

I think the same. If the EU is a better place to be, why do they risk their lives leaving the EU to arrive in the UK?

Even the French president, Macron, has said UK must reduce the pull factors.

What was it Burnham said?
’An illegal immigrant in every postcode’.

“And horpe in every haaaarrrtt”

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@KatiePricesKnickers

And don’t forget Starmer’s comment;

“Island of strangers”

Yes, the UK grants LTR at double the rate of France.

Asylum seekers know that the UK is a soft touch. You'd think having to learn French or German would be a small price to pay for having reached a safe country. But no, for so many if them, on they go, heading for the UK where a generous package of help awaits, a much higher likelihood of being granted LTR, little chance of being deported and once granted LTR being able to bring their family over which will give them priority for social housing and a full range of benefits to live on, possibly for life.

Quote "Yes, the UK grants LTR at double the rate of France."

Do you have a source for that ?

I can't even see if France has LTR.

Short overview of the asylum procedure - Asylum Information Database | European Council on Refugees and Exiles (asylumineurope.org)

And UK is not just for Asylum you know. I know people who moved to the UK totally normally who have LTR. And they are not all trying to get passports. It's a bit like a US green card really. Come and go, work etc.

One woman I know with an LTR, married to a brit. No intention of taking a UK passport. They both plan on retiring to her country.

You know, just totally normal movement of people.

The new way of counting started in 2011.

The UK has typical levels of refugees and immigration. Those opposing it do not have “legitimate concerns.” Many of them live in areas with close to zero migration. Labour should stop giving this issue salience, reopen consulates to asylum applications, and allow asylum seekers to work. This would reduce the number of boat crossings substantially.

The blackshirts are criminals half-wits, many of them with domestic violence convictions who are blocking ports, causing property damage and committing arson. It’s peculiar how their concerns are legitimate while non-violent left wing protestors who oppose support for the Israeli government are being locked up under anti-terrorism laws.

This is the change in counting people leaving I meant. May 2026.

The methodology change that erased 180,000 British emigrants a year - UK Demographics

From that -

"May 2025 (initial provisional, IPS-based): 77,000
November 2025 (revised provisional, RAPID-based): 257,000
May 2026 (completed estimate, RAPID-based): 257,000
The 180,000 difference is the size of the historical undercount of British emigration in any single year of the recent past. ONS reapplied the new method back to mid-2021. The corrected back-series shows British emigration of around 250,000 per year for the past four years, not the 70,000 to 80,000 the IPS had been reporting."

There was a massive jump, because they changed the method. I recall it was in the news at the time, and near instantly, Reform were claiming a massive "wealth and brain drain". And that is something their supporters still claim, even when presented with the evidence that the jump was due to the counting method.

And there was a flurry a threads as well around that time. Along the lines of " All my rich neighbours are leaving for because of Labour"

Quote " discouraging them by shipping them off to the coldest, wettest and most remote of the Scottish islands."

Anti Scottish are we. Anti Island life. Do you see it as hell or something.. a punishment to live on a stunning Scottish Island ?

FFS, Wind yourself in. Not many posts rile me on here, but yours did.

Scottish island community is a rainy haven for refugees who are giving back | UNHCR UK

Want to know something. See these people on these wee Scottish Island communities. Some of the kindest welcoming people on earth.

Tell you what. You stay in what ever place you are, spouting whatever rotten stuff you want to spout. Leave everyone else to it, to use a bit of the compassion to others that you seem to have had surgically removed.

Under the new methodology, back dated, net migration (and immigration) have declined. I think this is a bad thing, but Reform voters really don’t want it to be true.

That explains our wee difference then, The back dating,

I am all for freedom of movement myself.

Yes but you don't live in the UK as I've seen you say on another thread.

And ?

And you're all for freedom of movement on a discussion about migrant landings in the UK but you're not living in the UK which could be relevant to you not seeing it as a problem.

You do realise that when people come into this country with a passport and come through customs, we don’t arrest them if they have done something illegal previously?

Did I say I am for migrant landings ?

And if I do live outside the UK, don't you think that would logically mean I am for freedom of movement ?

And we can expand a bit I suppose. If someone is against freedom of movement, does that mean they think people should be restricted to their own country ? That no freedom of movement also applies to them too, and not just "others" ?

If we combine those 2 points, does it not follow that if someone has benefitted from freedom of movement and believes in freedom of movement, that they might be interested in discussing that subject, when there are people supporting a political party that would stop freedom of movement. A policy that would definitely affect the people who have benefitted from it?

How would you even know what crimes men committed in say Sudan or Afghanistan?

You said you are all for freedom of movement on a thread about migrant landings.

We don’t necessarily arrest them, but offenders might be prevented from travelling to the UK by the ETA.

And?

Did you see the context of my post ?

It was in a discussion where net migration was being talked about. Net migration does include the concept of freedom of movement.

Is that ok with you? As a matter of interest, are you for or against the concept?

I see most people wanting to talk about the subject of the thread which is migrant landings.

You wanting to direct the conversation instead to discussing legal migration, Reform and Trump.

I'm for legal migration/freedom of movement. Not for illegal migration.

Ok. So you are accusing me of distraction or diversion or something.

Ok, so do I need to go back through all the thread to see who first mentioned "net migration", and post the history here to assure you that I am not doing what you are accusing me of ?

And hey, am I stopping you from posting about small boats ?

I think Shabana Mahmood is doing what she can.

As mentioned in the OP, she has ordered an urgent review into how two boats could have reached Kent without being intercepted.

The BBC say that before Monday, no small boats had been officially recorded as arriving in the UK without an escort since 6 September 2025. And that uncontrolled landings of migrants in the UK are so rare that the incident in 2025 was the only other one recorded since the Home Office began keeping data in 2023.

Obviously we need to investigate how it could have happened and whether it points to new tactics are being used by people smugglers.

You wouldn't know. We don't know their criminal past, whether they've committed serious crimes in their countries of origin.

Yet we taxi them to our shores, give them a generous package of help, provide them with activist lawyers, all at great expense to the British public. Any local people who are hurt or harmed are just collateral damage.