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Is Reform done for?

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anotherside · 03/08/2026 17:56

The last several recent national polls indicate that the election of Burnham as leader has seen Labour retake the lead and would probably form a minority government (or better) if an election was held tomorrow. Reform meanwhile is in the low 20s, while they’re were averaging low 30s just six months ago. Do you think it’s game over for Reform in terms of the next election? Is Burnham enough to secure the next election for Labour? Or could Reform claw it back still?

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BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 16:48

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 16:28

Where ?!

Well, some people do.
This is what happens when governments don't listen to the people that elected them and treat them badly - you get insurrections. which IMO will only get worse.

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 16:56

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 16:48

Well, some people do.
This is what happens when governments don't listen to the people that elected them and treat them badly - you get insurrections. which IMO will only get worse.

That's not an "excuse" that's a statement of fact.

Have you not seen all the civil unrest caused around the country by this government's ineptitude ?

EEexpat · 10/08/2026 17:07

@chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles

That's not an "excuse" that's a statement of fact.

Correct.

Have you not seen all the civil unrest caused around the country by this government's ineptitude ?

I have. Maybe toes has not?

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 17:09

EEexpat · 10/08/2026 17:07

@chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles

That's not an "excuse" that's a statement of fact.

Correct.

Have you not seen all the civil unrest caused around the country by this government's ineptitude ?

I have. Maybe toes has not?

Maybe not, if they've had the TV and radio switched of all day and night.?

EmmaOfNormandy · 10/08/2026 17:12

5128gap · 10/08/2026 13:29

You also get them when governments are listening to one group rather than another, even when the group they are listening to is the majority. This is why governments should never allow violent minorities to influence decision making. If the violent minority get their way simply because they are violent, its the antithesis of democracy.

Something the UK should be very aware of.

TemperanceWest · 10/08/2026 17:22

Civil unrest? Where? Obviously there was Belfast and Southampton a while back. The only places I have read about recently are Thetford and Bristol. Both involved two/three hundred people.

The way certain posters are talking you'd think there were thousands of people rioting. I suspect an agenda is being pushed tbh.

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 17:29

TemperanceWest · 10/08/2026 17:22

Civil unrest? Where? Obviously there was Belfast and Southampton a while back. The only places I have read about recently are Thetford and Bristol. Both involved two/three hundred people.

The way certain posters are talking you'd think there were thousands of people rioting. I suspect an agenda is being pushed tbh.

I don’t suspect. It’s patently obvious. Either these posters are pushing that agenda or they’re extremely gullible.

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:06

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 17:29

I don’t suspect. It’s patently obvious. Either these posters are pushing that agenda or they’re extremely gullible.

Neither.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/gathering-storm-civil-unrest-warning-summer-2026-dan-sandford-gjbde

https://www.bicesteradvertiser.net/news/national/26448964.dozens-protesters-gather-outside-former-raf-base-thetford-unrest/

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 18:18

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EmmaOfNormandy · 10/08/2026 18:20

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Is that an illustration of two things being true at the same time ?

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 18:21

EmmaOfNormandy · 10/08/2026 18:20

Is that an illustration of two things being true at the same time ?

Pretty much.

TemperanceWest · 10/08/2026 18:22

An article on LinkedIn is some sort of authority 🤣? Everyone knows LinkedIn is choc-a-bloc with fuckwittery these days.

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:22

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Why blame me? I didn't write the article.

TemperanceWest · 10/08/2026 18:25

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:22

Why blame me? I didn't write the article.

Why did you link to it?

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:27

TemperanceWest · 10/08/2026 18:25

Why did you link to it?

Because it was relevant to the discussion.

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 18:27

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:22

Why blame me? I didn't write the article.

You linked to it, presumably as evidence to back up your views.

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:29

TemperanceWest · 10/08/2026 18:22

An article on LinkedIn is some sort of authority 🤣? Everyone knows LinkedIn is choc-a-bloc with fuckwittery these days.

This says not https://www.clrn.org/is-linkedin-a-credible-source/#google_vignette

EmmaOfNormandy · 10/08/2026 18:33

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:29

That requires a priori trust in US based sources, of course.

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 18:34

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:29

Linked In is available for all manner of loons to post on. He’s an engineer, not a political analyst, his view has no more validity than yours.

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:35

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 18:34

Linked In is available for all manner of loons to post on. He’s an engineer, not a political analyst, his view has no more validity than yours.

OK, please yourself.

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:50

EmmaOfNormandy · 10/08/2026 18:33

That requires a priori trust in US based sources, of course.

By the same token can we trust any news sources ?

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2026 18:56

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:50

By the same token can we trust any news sources ?

Not exclusively, no. That’s why reading a variety is essential. And, by the way, some random geezer on Linked in isn’t a news source.

EmmaOfNormandy · 10/08/2026 18:58

chipsandcurrysaucewithpickles · 10/08/2026 18:50

By the same token can we trust any news sources ?

Now that is a good question. The only real answer is "no", and to apply a compensating control of sourcing more than one and looking at a median.

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