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How long do you give Andy Burnham as PM?

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AndyBurnham2L · 16/07/2026 06:25

Build ‘em up.
Knock ‘em down.

Short honeymoon and then the grumbling will start. It will all be over for him by Christmas.

So, who’s next?

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hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:20

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:18

Of course!

So you trust the comments over the article itself?

Bit like replies on X

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:35

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:20

So you trust the comments over the article itself?

Bit like replies on X

FT comments are a window into the wealthy. I can assure you they pay more than enough tax to the feckless and lazy already.

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:38

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:35

FT comments are a window into the wealthy. I can assure you they pay more than enough tax to the feckless and lazy already.

So you read the FT for the comments.

That is quite feckless and lazy.

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:39

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:19

Don't private schools charge for their extra support anyway?

LEAs can claim the back the vat for EHCP places

Only in so far as what additional support is required. Which you then pay VAT on. Directly taxing disability.

EHCPs; yes. But hard to aquire. A symptom of a broken system?

BrandiedAromatics · 29/07/2026 19:40

Well, this rather confused elderly man represents me - bless him:

UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham questioned by elderly man. #BBCNews

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BoA_IkMX2m4

LizzieSiddal · 29/07/2026 19:43

BrandiedAromatics · 29/07/2026 19:40

Well, this rather confused elderly man represents me - bless him:

UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham questioned by elderly man. #BBCNews

The Drs used to ask patients who the PM was in order to establish if someone was confused. They won’t beable to do that anymore!

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:50

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:39

Only in so far as what additional support is required. Which you then pay VAT on. Directly taxing disability.

EHCPs; yes. But hard to aquire. A symptom of a broken system?

The schools could choose not to charge for that additional support.

They are directly charging disability.

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 19:50

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:01

Compassion only poor kids but not for rich kids?

Each according to their needs.

Puley · 29/07/2026 19:51

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:19

Sums up the bitterness in the UK towards any success and the rat pit wanting to pull you down. We’re fucked.

Just pay your tax if you want your child to be educated privately. What’s the big deal?

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 19:56

Puley · 29/07/2026 19:51

Just pay your tax if you want your child to be educated privately. What’s the big deal?

The big deal is that PP already pays
tax but doesn’t take up
a state school place, so in fact, instead of having her fees taxed to fuck, she actually deserves a rebate.

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 20:00

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 19:56

The big deal is that PP already pays
tax but doesn’t take up
a state school place, so in fact, instead of having her fees taxed to fuck, she actually deserves a rebate.

It’s her choice. There are plenty of services I choose not to use, I don’t expect a rebate. Taxation isn’t based on a menu. The state supplies a school place free of charge for her child, it’s up to her whether or not she uses it.

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:02

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 20:00

It’s her choice. There are plenty of services I choose not to use, I don’t expect a rebate. Taxation isn’t based on a menu. The state supplies a school place free of charge for her child, it’s up to her whether or not she uses it.

People choose to pay for different things.

Some pay for make up and clothes, others for their children. I know which one I value.

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:04

People pay VAT on clothes and make up

And school fees are out of reach for most people no matter how much they value education.

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 20:04

Puley · 29/07/2026 19:51

Just pay your tax if you want your child to be educated privately. What’s the big deal?

Well it’s an extra £7500 in VAT per child; so that’s £15k a year I need to find. I begrudge that; and have needed to sacrifice quite a bit to afford this. But over 40 thousand kids have been forced to leave their schools, 125 have closed. The policy was rushed in, and caused great harm. All because of the spiteful jealousy and bitterness at the heart of Labour. The Supreme Court rules on this in December. Bring it on.

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:04

And she should not have to choose.
State education should be just as good as private.

Why isn’t it?

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:05

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:04

People pay VAT on clothes and make up

And school fees are out of reach for most people no matter how much they value education.

Eye watering expensive make up
is a frivolity.

Education isn’t.

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:07

And school fees are out of reach for most people no matter how much they value education.

They are now!

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:07

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:05

Eye watering expensive make up
is a frivolity.

Education isn’t.

Eye watering private education can also been seen as a frivolity

It's a choice.

A choice only a minority can make.

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 20:08

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:04

People pay VAT on clothes and make up

And school fees are out of reach for most people no matter how much they value education.

Virtually every other country recognises the NET public good that comes from private schools. Causing less demand, less pressure, and less use of public funds. In Germany you get a tax credit if you pay for private schools. Here you pay extra tax. The policy is pure spite.

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:08

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:07

Eye watering private education can also been seen as a frivolity

It's a choice.

A choice only a minority can make.

No.

Do you really think mascara and education is the same?

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:09

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:07

And school fees are out of reach for most people no matter how much they value education.

They are now!

They always were

Why have private education otherwise?

If everyone could afford it there would be no demand, exclusivity is what sells it.

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 20:10

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:07

Eye watering private education can also been seen as a frivolity

It's a choice.

A choice only a minority can make.

I can’t afford it so let’s punish those who can.

The UK is such a bitter and resentful country.

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 20:11

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 20:10

I can’t afford it so let’s punish those who can.

The UK is such a bitter and resentful country.

Would you choose private if everyone could afford it?

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 20:12

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 20:07

And school fees are out of reach for most people no matter how much they value education.

They are now!

They always were.

And how the fuck did mascara enter the discussion?

Puley · 29/07/2026 20:12

Squirrelsarecleverbastards · 29/07/2026 19:56

The big deal is that PP already pays
tax but doesn’t take up
a state school place, so in fact, instead of having her fees taxed to fuck, she actually deserves a rebate.

I don’t have kids but I pay my tax so that babies can be delivered by the NHS. I don’t have kids so I too am not using any school spaces.

Can I choose not to pay my VAT on wine since I’m saving the state money not using schools to educate my kids and hospitals to give birth? No, of course not. Because that is ludicrous and not how the tax system works.