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How long do you give Andy Burnham as PM?

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AndyBurnham2L · 16/07/2026 06:25

Build ‘em up.
Knock ‘em down.

Short honeymoon and then the grumbling will start. It will all be over for him by Christmas.

So, who’s next?

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hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 17:49

Is that to balance the left wing think thank bias?

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 17:51

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 17:46

You don't need to re-post the same graph again.

We have an aging population, pensions increase the welfare budget.

Correct. An ageing population, 1 million NEET, and 10 million working age economically inactive. The number of net economic contributors is shrinking, the number of UK millionaires is falling, yet all labour wants to do is tax the productive even more, so as to hand it over in even more welfare benefits. Fuck off with that!

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 17:56

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 17:51

Correct. An ageing population, 1 million NEET, and 10 million working age economically inactive. The number of net economic contributors is shrinking, the number of UK millionaires is falling, yet all labour wants to do is tax the productive even more, so as to hand it over in even more welfare benefits. Fuck off with that!

Maybe stop reading certain headlines.

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 17:59

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 17:56

Maybe stop reading certain headlines.

A few days away from the Mail and Telegraph would do some people the world of good.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 18:06

If you don’t care about the feckless parents have you no concern for the children. If you want to stop the cycle you have to invest. Or does having poor people you can look down upon and despise make you feel warm on cold winter nights?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 29/07/2026 18:10

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 17:59

A few days away from the Mail and Telegraph would do some people the world of good.

Hmmm. I doubt there would be as much good done to the nation’s understanding of the world by that as by the left shunning the Guardian and the HuffPost for a day.

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 18:25

At least there wouldn’t be a portion of the population in a lather based on pure speculation presented as fact.

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 18:48

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 17:59

A few days away from the Mail and Telegraph would do some people the world of good.

The financial times is my newspaper. It would be helpful if others here read it too.

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 18:51

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 18:06

If you don’t care about the feckless parents have you no concern for the children. If you want to stop the cycle you have to invest. Or does having poor people you can look down upon and despise make you feel warm on cold winter nights?

I have the same level of compassion shown to me from the concerns for children with the introduction of private school VAT.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 18:56

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 18:51

I have the same level of compassion shown to me from the concerns for children with the introduction of private school VAT.

Wow - you have to pay a bit more to send your kids to private school and you want compassion. You are comparing how you feel as a parent, an adult, to the feelings of a child of ‘feckless’ parents. A child who may need support learning to read so they can escape poverty.

You are confirming every prejudice I have about the type of person who sends their kids to private schools and why I didn’t want my children to mix with them. I hope this is a wind up.

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 18:56

The FT says Burnham is willing to raise taxes for social care funding, not quite as dramatic as you are making out.

Puley · 29/07/2026 18:58

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 18:51

I have the same level of compassion shown to me from the concerns for children with the introduction of private school VAT.

Yes. Will no one show more compassion to the rich?!

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 18:59

Labour has literally introduced a direct tax on disabled SEN kids in private schools (taxing their additional learning support). Zero fucking compassion there. Zero. Even the High Court finds the policy to disproportionately prejudice against SEN kids.

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:01

Puley · 29/07/2026 18:58

Yes. Will no one show more compassion to the rich?!

Compassion only poor kids but not for rich kids?

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:01

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 18:56

The FT says Burnham is willing to raise taxes for social care funding, not quite as dramatic as you are making out.

Read the subscriber comments!

Puley · 29/07/2026 19:03

HarshbutTrue2 · 29/07/2026 16:48

Sure start was used by middle class mummies for the activities.
The useless mums never went.
And what sort of useless person can't look after a child? There's health visitors, midwives, GPs, social workers. A plethora of people to help, if you ask.
Oh, and I had a person called mum. She was full of advice and experience. And a mother in law. And a husband. Plus friends and neighbours. And extended family.

Do these useless mothers not know one single person who knows anything about babies?

Your mother obviously did a wonderful job raising her child.

Puley · 29/07/2026 19:04

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 17:32

I’m very concerned about someone who teaches A Christmas Carol and fails to understand that Dickens’ portrait of the Cratchits was a sentimentalised parody.

I am concerned that someone who used to teach doesn’t understand capital letters.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 19:05

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:01

Compassion only poor kids but not for rich kids?

Yeah to be honest I’m struggling to find an iota of compassion for you. Your child possibly. You? No.

Puley · 29/07/2026 19:07

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:01

Compassion only poor kids but not for rich kids?

Compassion that their parents have to pay value added tax on something they’re purchasing of, er, value? No, I don’t think that is something that requires compassion.

TemperanceWest · 29/07/2026 19:09

HarshbutTrue2 · 29/07/2026 17:27

I used to teach a Christmas carol thank you very much.
The cratchit family were poor but their children were well looked after.
I have also studied philosophy and economics. So off you pop.

Off you pop? How rude!

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:10

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:01

Read the subscriber comments!

Really, is one of them yours?

TemperanceWest · 29/07/2026 19:13

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:01

Read the subscriber comments!

Are they as batshit as the Telegraph's?

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:18

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:10

Really, is one of them yours?

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Of course!

hedgeknight · 29/07/2026 19:19

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 18:59

Labour has literally introduced a direct tax on disabled SEN kids in private schools (taxing their additional learning support). Zero fucking compassion there. Zero. Even the High Court finds the policy to disproportionately prejudice against SEN kids.

Don't private schools charge for their extra support anyway?

LEAs can claim the back the vat for EHCP places

PinkFruitbat · 29/07/2026 19:19

Puley · 29/07/2026 19:07

Compassion that their parents have to pay value added tax on something they’re purchasing of, er, value? No, I don’t think that is something that requires compassion.

Sums up the bitterness in the UK towards any success and the rat pit wanting to pull you down. We’re fucked.

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