Change law to kick out Rochdale rapist, No 10 urged

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Reported in The Telegraph that Labour is facing mounting pressure to change immigration laws immediately so that a child rapist freed from jail can be deported.

Shabir Ahmed, 73, was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail after being convicted of 30 child rape offences as part of the Rochdale grooming gang.

But on Thursday, the Pakistan-born rapist was released after serving 14 years.

Britain stripped him of his citizenship, but cannot currently deport him because of protections granted to Commonwealth immigrants such as Ahmed under the Immigration Act 1971.

On Thursday, Downing Street said the Prime Minister had asked Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, to “consider what can be done” to deport Ahmed, describing his case as “particularly heinous”.

It comes after Andy Burnham, expected to succeed Sir Keir Starmer as prime minister, also vowed to “review all options” to deport the "vile criminal".

The amendment to Ms Mahmood’s immigration bill will propose rewriting the 1971 act to permit the removal of serious criminals such as Ahmed.

However, even if an amendment were to pass, two senior Pakistani government officials told The Telegraph that the country would not accept Ahmed back because he renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

They added that he posed a danger to Pakistani children.

If their claim is correct, it places Ahmed in the same situation as two other freed Pakistani ringleaders of the Rochdale grooming gang whom Pakistan has refused to take back.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/02/deport-foreign-born-child-rapists-demand-labour-mps/

Yes. I think it may take a little time but I think the UK and Pakistan governments will collaborate and he'll be gone.

Though I imagine Pakistan may agree and say only in this case so as not to open doors.

With immigration and crime being such a hot topic in the UK and leading to public disorder, the UK has a case to say not only is he not wanted here, the government could not keep him safe.

He's currently in staffed 24/7 accommodation on a tag but that's unsustainable in the longer-term.

There's so much governmental and public opposition, he'll be hunted down so you're looking at keeping him alone in a property (other offenders in a hostel would expose him and/or attack him themselves ) with staff and it's very difficult to keep a location confidential. Plus the risk of SM warriors thinking they know where he is and attacking individuals or properties that have nothing to do with him.

There is no way he can go back to a normal life.

Of course, the other possibility is they recall him to prison on some kind of spurious breach of his licence and the government hope he dies in the next 7 years before they have to release him again with no plan of how to keep him safe nor would he be subject to any kind of probation.

Ok thanks, makes sense.

Make them accept him. We give Pakistan undreds of millions per year. They need to take back the criminal Pakastanis

Sadly we cannot kick out our own devil's; but we can kick out foreign ones.
You could vote for a 'tougher on crime' government if you want these people to have harsher punishments.

Foreign aid to Pakistan is £133 million, of which £130 million is targeted to girls’ education initiatives.

Thanks for all your informative and calm posts @KindPinkEagle

So the question is which is more important to Britain? The safety of British girls or the education of Pakastani girls?

He HAS had his citizenship revoked. If he was Shamina Begum's age he could be deported under the Immigration Act 2016, however because he came to the UK before 1973 it is the Immigration Act 1971 which applies.

Hopefully the government can amend the current act so that it revokes the relevant clauses in the 1971 Act and makes the changes retrospective.

Aw, thank you.

Yes, thank you. Your posts have been very helpful.

Maybe they’re both important. I think they are.

We can care about both. Why allow this man to indirectly do more damage to women and girls via cancelling millions of pounds worth of aid aimed at helping them?

Hopefully a solution can be found that doesn't entail that.

Surely, they could find something else to charge him with? Then put him back inside until he dies.

He was a taxi driver. There was never any drive to import taxi drivers. Never.

He did fuck-all to contribute to UK industry, care homes or the economy.

He drove taxis which can really be done by any UK citizen or ya' know, people could find an alternative mode of transport if a taxi isn't available.

And he raped English children in that taxi.

Dozens.

His nickname in the child raping ring was 'Daddy'

Are you suggesting I should be grateful that he immigrated to the UK and drove a taxi when he fancied?

That he had multiple children that were at the same time as him, using all the benefits of living in the UK, like free healthcare, education, the Police force and child social services that ignored his raping, the fucking expensive trial that he caused because he wouldn't plead guilty of raping English girls because he didn't believe it was rape..

Because English children are sluts who are just begging to have a dirty, sweaty man several decades older than them force his penis into their vagina, anus or mouth in the back of his taxi or on a mattress in a van, or in a dirty flat while he literally spits on them?

You need to have a word with yourself and have some actual knowledge about what immigration policies were for.

And realise a taxi driver was never in any way contributing even slightly towards what they took out from the UK system. Especially when they had multiple children.

In the UK of course they say that’s the case (albeit, it wasn’t only white girls who were abused) But are you suggesting pedophiles returning to Pakistan wouldn’t target Pakistani children? That’s a bold suggestion.

There is also the question of whether girls within that community were being abused but have culturally found it more difficult to report.

Either Labour deport him and his ilk, or a Reform/Restore Govt will.

Most Pakistani grooming gangs ideologically believe young white non-Muslim girls are 'slags' who deserve to be raped.

It's extremely rare that they would target Muslim girls, and even more unlikely in Pakistan where they would face the death penalty.

But I agree that he's still probably too much of a risk to others - let's give him the justice he would have got in Pakistan.

Furious. I read that he was ‘well behaved’ on the inside. Well, there weren’t any little girls for him to hurt in there were there? How well behaved will he be now he’s out and about back in the community.

Everyone saying deport him. Deport him WHERE? He could go into a volcano for all I care but the plane or boat or steam train or whatever you put him on has to go somewhere and Pakistan won’t take him!

Then he could go into a detention centre, until they will take him. He isn't a British citizen anymore, he has no right to be in this country.

I think we need to look at this as a wider issue rather than focusing on this one person in this one case, or even a handful of people across a whole bunch of cases.

If it is easy for the U.K. government to change the law in order to strip a person of their citizenship, that should be a concern for everyone, even those of us who would consider ourselves “fully British” (by that I mean someone who can trace their family tree as far back as it goes and every single person was born and lived here). If we agree the government can deport someone to somewhere they have no citizenship any more, that means they can do it to somewhere they have never had citizenship. I’m not at all comfortable with our government having the power to decide who can and can’t live in this country when they have previous met all the legal standards for doing so, and yes, that includes even the most heinous of criminals.

What people are really saying is, we don’t want this guy to be able to do this again in the U.K. (they’re not so bothered if he does it elsewhere, just not here). So what about his white counterparts? The Glasgow gang had a variety of sentences and some are eligible for parole in as little as 10 years. What do we do with those guys? Do we want them to be deported somewhere? I’d rather them not being able to do it ever again. I’d rather they got a whole life sentence with no parole. That way it’s clear that in doing this crime, you will never see the light of day again. The outcome of that won’t affect me or any other law abiding person in the U.K. other than to protect us. Changing the laws on citizenship might seem ok when we are dealing with “others” who are criminals, but the precedent it sets is something that could be a risk to the rest of us, in the hands of the wrong government. We should never let that happen.

I think remission should work in the opposite direction. The entitlement should be to add 25-33% onto the headline sentence if the prisoner does not “behave” and their automatic remission gets activated ie a 20 year sentence becomes 25 - 27 years for poor behaviour. A sentence a judge gives should be served.

And yet Pakistani girls are still abused in massive numbers. Pakistan ranks third globally for reports of CSA online, behind India and the Philippines. Look up the Kasur case, the Zainab Ansari case and there are plenty of others.

This is a culture that has 18% of girls married before they are 18, that’s over 20 million girls. 5 million of those are married before they are 15, despite it being illegal. Suggesting there aren’t paedophiles in that country is laughable. It has been shown time and time again the death penalty does not act as a deterrent for any crime in any place.

Of course the media reporting will lean heavily into their alleged comments about white girls, that’s the dog whistle. The Jay report was very clear, there were two reasons cases of Asian girls went under the radar, one was that girls were less likely to report to families that it happened, because of the cultural shame, and those who had families who were far less likely to report to the police because of a lack of trust. Nonetheless there were several cases involving women and girls which were reported to the police but which never garnered any media attention.

Would this gang have carried out the abuse in the same manner, using the same tactics in Pakistan? Who knows. Would they still abuse any young girl if they had the chance, no matter what their skin colour? Absolutely. I dare say if they had all live in, say, Nigeria, they would have targeted vulnerable black girls and said the same thing.

This is a good suggestion.

Agree with this.