Would you vote for Angela Rayner?

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Sounds like she's throwing her hat in the ring.

She says she's paid off the tax she owes and is no longer under investigation.

This apparently means she's free to run - and is going to.

I am completely centre establishment. Unless growth and believing in economics is suddenly right? It really is not.

“Blair supports Trump, joined his Board of Peace', his institute received donations from an AI billionaire, he lobbies for oil companies.
He is in it for himself more than anything.”

@TopPocketFind - but we aren’t doing an ad hominem. I am talking about the points actually raised in the essay. I can separate the man from the music, as they like to say. Can’t you?

You do compared with me and I’m far from a rabid leftie.

ok, so he's bad meanie

Can you go through the summary of his interview and the points where you disagree with him?

@blossomtoes - I am not sure. You said you subscribe to the Times, which I would not. I read the Financial Times, but I would not be paying the Times and never the Telegraph (unless on a short term offer for a laugh).

I frankly think I am just economically and legally driven and geopolitically realistic.

What’s my subscription to The Times got to do with anything? It’s hardly the Morning Star!

@Araminta1003 and @nearlylovemyusername , no I cannot be bothered to give you a summary or my opinion on Blair's essay.

I disagree with him on most points, that should suffice on a thread about Angela Rayner.

@blossomtoes - The Times is a small c centre right publication and you are happy to pay them.

@TopPocketFind - OK can you answer whether you agree with the premise that policy comes before politics or not.

A lot of where some of us are coming from is entirely to do with being professionals in real life working in finance law etc. That really does not make us right leaning. More on the pulse of where businesses currently stand, which some of you are clearly not.

Yes I am. I also subscribe to The Guardian and scan my bloke’s Telegraph. It’s important to me to see the news from a variety of vantage points. I thought anyone who claimed to be well informed did that.

I’m also shallow and really like The Times fashion and beauty pages. So shoot me!

You date a bloke who reads the Telegraph @blossomtoes and live in Tory central.

I really think you are only more left than me in certain select ways!

It only proves the point that bandying around “right wing” is just entirely dumb.
Especially if you are fundamentally just describing economically realistic people who are policy driven and quite status quo.

Not if those policies are the ones Blair is promoting.

He is all words not much else.

No I’ve been married to him for 26 years. Obviously we don’t discuss politics.

I am confident to say though that I think policy comes before the person or party implementing it and that policy has to adapt to circumstances (eg. Wars, geopolitical tensions, ageing populations etc).
I think a lot of policy is not being planned properly because of skewed demographics and skewed voting patterns and first past the post.

Policy in the best interests of the country as a whole, both short term and mid term and somewhat long term, has to, in my opinion, always come first.
The problem we have is short term politics and politicians cosying up to their voters by buying them with promises. It is really not what is in the best interests of the country economically speaking nor is it keeping the population safe either in any mid term way. If people cannot see that, then I really do not know what to say.

You will get no argument from me about Nigel Farage.

Who is Angela Rayner to tell taxpayers they are “lucky” and that they should “pay back”? So we will have to disagree on the “spouting of hate”. Sowing division, scapegoating and blame shifting - potato, potato.

Dressing it up in more socially acceptable language from an ivory tower does not disguise what many recognise as Labour’s MO: the politics of envy and gaslighting.

Especially when that “ivory tower” is apparently an £800k seaside flat 250 miles away from where her children live.

Her youngest “child” is 17.

So.

In public office character matters.

Policy first 100%.

So the distance away from her children isn’t relevant.

She has been cleared by HMRC

And what is wrong with having a property somewhere else? Plenty of politicians have several properties. Do you judge male politicians in the same way?

To you, but not to me.

No way in hell. She is a fucking hypocrite with frumpiest dress sense that I have ever seen!

If she was a divorced man the distance from her adult children wouldn’t even shift the dial.