This post nails it about left wing voters on Mumsnet over the last two days

[ProudAmberTurtle]

It's by an ex-academic on X, about posts on Reddit over the last 48 hours but is equally applicable to Mumsnet, where I can seeing posts stating things like:

"How stupid are Reform voters? Don't they realise they'll get fewer benefits?!"

The irony is of course that it's those posters who need to be educated, not the working class voters they mock because they think they're thick.

Here you go:

Reading through Reddit threads in which leftists/progressives express their bewilderment/confusion/fury at working class English voters for casting their lot in with Reform, one of the things I'm starting to understand is this:

They simply do not understand how a government could help working-class people in any other way besides giving them benefits, handouts, and other free things.

Their entire mental architecture is premised upon the premises that

1. Working class people are poor
2. The only way for them to not be poor is for the state to give them free stuff
3. So left-wing parties need to promise them lots of free stuff

Then, when these working-class voters instead vote for right-of-centre parties who instead promise an economy in which they can build a career, start their own business, make a financial success of themselves and start a family, they're confused.

Because, again, in their mental architecture, what the working class are supposed to want is free benefits from the state.

But what they actually want is a fair shake at making their own way in the world, making money, getting on in life.

And the left simply doesn't understand that what these voters want from the state is an economy in which they can actually do this.

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Actually, where I am is an authoritarian state. So there is that.

And yet somehow I am able to keep my culture.

In fact, I have the Proclaimers music playing as I type this. No police banging at the door.

So what UK culture is banned in the UK these days ?

I presume you are not a practicing lesbian then if you are able to type?

I thought ‘far east’ was out dated as a term these days.

Although whichever specific country it is there likely is a distinct culture, which the pp can probably recognise even if a culture is not afforded to here.

Quote " I thought ‘far east’ was out dated as a term these days."

No idea. Is it ?

Quote :"Although whichever specific country it is there likely is a distinct culture, which the pp can probably recognise even if a culture is not afforded to here."

I don't know what that means.

Countries do have different cultures. And even in the same country there are different cultures. Even cultures in specific cultures can have sub cultures.

It's in living memory that the Rockers and Mods cultures in the UK were seen as a threat, then the Punks started up. And I would be pretty certain that if I said there was a pub somewhere in the UK with a Rocker, a Mod and a Punk sitting together, I would not be wrong.

I’m going to assume it’s Japan. Maybe South Korea.

Because her putting a Christmas tree up in Tokyo is comparable to a woman walking through Kabul with her elbows showing

well red tag Alan
I think I'm as old as you as I well remember the mods and rockers, punks etc in my teenage years . I was more on the hippie side.
We were were not scared of the mods and rockers, maybe just intimidated. We knew they were not going to change our lives.
The Islamist threat to our way of life is immense. you do not appear to be very aware of the power it already has - not the least in voting patterns but also in many other areas. School curriculum has also come under their spotlight. I hate to say it, but it seems that many people are running scared of it.

RedTagAlan is a man living abroad and he's not based in the UK. He has no experience of being a woman currently living here, but is happy to tell us where we are going wrong and what we should accept.

Yep. Usually the same can see Japan and South Korea have a culture more relevant to them. But go blank when it’s here, or some jibe about Morris dancing etc.

I am not, quote " happy to tell us where we are going wrong and what we should accept."

I just asked what parts of UK culture can UK folk not do now.

And instead of getting an answer to that I am just getting a pile on.

The first reply you got answered your question. They mentioned other countries that started off with a small Islamic population that grew to become the majority.
If it interests you why don’t you go and look it up?

Do you remember the "society is collapsing" warnings ?

And yet we survived. We survived the Goths too.

In fact, can you name a society that has collapsed into anarchy, or a culture that has been lost, in modern history ?

There’s some moving pics of women celebrating in Iran in 1979. I won’t relay what happened to many of them shortly after.

@RedTagAlan
As you are living in another country, I really don't think you are in a position to say how the culture is changing in the UK.
If you are not a woman, extreme Islamic views are not as threatening to you.

My question was what UK cultural things are not allowed now ?

Can you answer that instead of deflecting ?

What happened to them ?

Have a look online I’m not googling for you.

Agree with this. I’m not sure why they would think it’s their voice that counts more.

Ahh wait. Did I say that anything I say counts more than what others say ?

When did I say that ?

I just asked a question, What cultural things can't Brits do in Britain any more ?

Still waiting for an answer.

Cool. It's a "research it yourself" answer.

Sure, that old chestnut. If you don’t know already then I’m not surprised you’re on mn posting as such at women.

Eh? What a load of nonsense. There's as many white working class as anyone else. Working class equals anyone who has to work for a living but aren't in the professional services. Think nurses, the rank and file of the rest of the NHS and civil service.

As for loving a victim; What's wrong with helping those who need helping.

Get over yourself.

I really think we are heading fast towards sectarianism. Where a jury of a certain composition will not convict on principle a Muslim person - see several examples.

Where some areas will be 100% Muslim and have their own laws - eg no dogs permitted and then compulsory covering for women.

The democratic process will work against the “traditional” Britain and indeed West in that they vote for a range of parties, but the Muslim vote is organised - postal votes all filled in, family voting and community leaders instructing people how to vote.

Westerners have few children; traditional Muslims have many. Obviously the demographic make-up of the country will look very different in a few decades’ time.

I don't know what happened to them. I don't even know who you were talking about.

That's why I asked.

Yes, this is happening already and will accelerate with demographic change. The authorities are aware of it and are running scared. Their fears are well founded.

Type what you’re interested in to a search bar. And perhaps reflect on why any man feels able to override the threat women feel and discuss online.