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Social security spending out of control?

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Wizeman · 15/03/2026 15:06

The UK spends about £334 billion on social security. Around £177 billion of that goes on pensions, which as a young person I’d definitely want when I’m older — especially if I’ve worked all my life and paid into the system. What I don’t understand is why some younger people are against older people getting a pension, because one day they’ll want one too.

About £145 billion goes towards working-age benefits, which is a massive amount of money. Around £76 billion of that is for disabled people, which I think is fair and necessary. But you hear so many stories about people taking advantage of the system, and a lot of those stories turn out to be true.

They say about 1 in 3 people in Britain are on some kind of benefit. I’ve personally been in hospital with serious injuries and had operations that put me out of work for months, and it never crossed my mind to claim benefits. I’ve also been out of work for about a year before while working towards getting a new job, and I just lived off my savings.

That said, I’ll be honest — I’ve always had support from my parents, like being able to stay at their house. I know not everyone has that kind of support.

But it does feel like fewer people want to work and some would rather claim benefits.
I also don’t think removing the two-child benefit cap will really solve the problem.
In Poland, for example, people get tax breaks for having kids, which encourages people to work.

Either way, £334 billion just sounds like an insane amount of money to me.

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matresense · 07/05/2026 07:38

@Smeuse

i never said that they couldn’t work side by side or that immigrants come here purely for benefits. But now we have a system where the “minimum contribution” is pitched too low. What do you think? do you care about GDP per capita falling? You keep dodging the question.

matresense · 07/05/2026 07:54

And it is also unethical to perpetuate a system in which mostly people from abroad with otherwise bad economic options will willingly become carers.

Smeuse · 07/05/2026 08:25

Whatever your views on immigration, don't vote Reform today if you really care about Social Care.

Immigrants and benefit recipients aren't your enemies.

matresense · 07/05/2026 09:36

@Smeusei wouldn’t vote reform anyway. I’d only be tempted if it was a straight tie between them and a Green candidate (because i think they are just the antisemitic anti-economics failed Jeremy Corbyn supporter party). But I can’t vote today as it’s not my area!

ruethewhirl · 07/05/2026 11:16

Smeuse · 06/05/2026 21:18

Do you want an uninteresed person caring for your parent, child or partner?

Absolutely this. I can say from observing my DM's various carers over the last couple of years that some of them should not be in the job as their levels of sheer disinterest have literally made them a liability at times. I don't blame them for their disinterest, I might add - they're doing a literally shitty job for shitty money - but it underlines my view that unsuitable people should not be shoehorned into jobs where they are responsible for the frail and vulnerable.

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