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Any Americans on here? What is the feeling in America regarding trump?

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FedUpWithDilemmas · 17/01/2026 17:46

I've only seen one person talking out against him regarding Greenland. I know this can't be representative to reality. But I wonder what the media is controlling

What's going on in America?

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TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2026 00:29

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 00:25

If it’s simple, then why are you asking it? This is a waste of time. I genuinely don’t understand what your point is? I’m not sure why you don’t just explain?

You said mechanisms are in place to contain the US president, despite his disregard for law. What are they?

sleepwouldbenice · 19/01/2026 00:33

bestbefore · 18/01/2026 06:52

It’s crazy that there isn’t a real “opposition” leader in the us, to try and call him out with some sense of authority. Obama seems v quiet but I guess he is retired. The whole set up is too divisive imho

I find lots of US politics odd. Sometimes its just a slanging match but I have realised the value of Prime Ministers questions here, the chance to be be directly challenged in public by your peers and opponents. In the US you rarely seem to hear effectively from the opposition, I assume as they dont really have a leader until the next election? All very odd. Not really holding to account

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 00:57

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2026 00:29

You said mechanisms are in place to contain the US president, despite his disregard for law. What are they?

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Nope. You completely misunderstood the conversation from the beginning. I was referring to how JD Vance might become president without an election. For example if Trump dies or those around him deem him incapable. Personally I have always found him incapable but unless it comes from within his own party then it won’t happen. Not that I believe JD Vance would be any better.

Why all of the games though? Why can’t you just be clear about what you were asking so we didn’t waste all of this time? To be honest, god knows whether I’ve understood you now 🤷‍♀️

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2026 01:24

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 00:57

Nope. You completely misunderstood the conversation from the beginning. I was referring to how JD Vance might become president without an election. For example if Trump dies or those around him deem him incapable. Personally I have always found him incapable but unless it comes from within his own party then it won’t happen. Not that I believe JD Vance would be any better.

Why all of the games though? Why can’t you just be clear about what you were asking so we didn’t waste all of this time? To be honest, god knows whether I’ve understood you now 🤷‍♀️

Games?

What games? What are you talking about?Confused

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 01:38

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2026 01:24

Games?

What games? What are you talking about?Confused

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Hanginging · 19/01/2026 01:39

sleepwouldbenice · 19/01/2026 00:33

I find lots of US politics odd. Sometimes its just a slanging match but I have realised the value of Prime Ministers questions here, the chance to be be directly challenged in public by your peers and opponents. In the US you rarely seem to hear effectively from the opposition, I assume as they dont really have a leader until the next election? All very odd. Not really holding to account

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I think that is a key difference too, and it is a problem.

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2026 01:42

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 01:38

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That makes as much sense as an answer as any of your previous posts.😵‍💫

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 01:42

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/01/2026 23:39

The whole world is now aware of US President Trump's lack of regard for the law or anything else.

What mechanisms does the USA have to contain him if he goes off?

The constitution. Separate branches of the armed forces. The marines and army hate each other. Marines think the army is too weak. The army thinks the marines are a cult. The air force hates everyone.

It is illegal to deploy troops within the country. When the supreme court gets this, they will not accept it. And the 75% of Americans who are not his base would take up arms to defend their States sovereignty. Feds have ignored the 10th amendment and abused the commerce cease for 60+ years. Many of us are tired of it.

350 million firearms.

State officials who will not tolerate federal overreach.

It is less so now, but many Americans have more loyalty to their state than they do to the feds.

What we are seeing in MN is exactly what the American founders intended.

Armed citizens standing up to a corrupt federal policy.

I mentioned above the influence of Lockean political philosophy. And he talks about how when a government starts violating the social contract (life, liberty, property), there is a moral obligation to revolt.

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 01:45

sleepwouldbenice · 19/01/2026 00:33

I find lots of US politics odd. Sometimes its just a slanging match but I have realised the value of Prime Ministers questions here, the chance to be be directly challenged in public by your peers and opponents. In the US you rarely seem to hear effectively from the opposition, I assume as they dont really have a leader until the next election? All very odd. Not really holding to account

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They key difference is that the President is both head of state and head of government. The PM is merely head of government.

The President is completely separate from the legislature. And so being questioned by congrespeople would violate the co-equal branches of government principle.

So it would be like asking the King to be grilled in parliament.

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2026 01:47

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 01:42

The constitution. Separate branches of the armed forces. The marines and army hate each other. Marines think the army is too weak. The army thinks the marines are a cult. The air force hates everyone.

It is illegal to deploy troops within the country. When the supreme court gets this, they will not accept it. And the 75% of Americans who are not his base would take up arms to defend their States sovereignty. Feds have ignored the 10th amendment and abused the commerce cease for 60+ years. Many of us are tired of it.

350 million firearms.

State officials who will not tolerate federal overreach.

It is less so now, but many Americans have more loyalty to their state than they do to the feds.

What we are seeing in MN is exactly what the American founders intended.

Armed citizens standing up to a corrupt federal policy.

I mentioned above the influence of Lockean political philosophy. And he talks about how when a government starts violating the social contract (life, liberty, property), there is a moral obligation to revolt.

Do you think Trump can be constrained by the Constitution? Who would have to do what to rein him in?

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 02:16

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 01:42

The constitution. Separate branches of the armed forces. The marines and army hate each other. Marines think the army is too weak. The army thinks the marines are a cult. The air force hates everyone.

It is illegal to deploy troops within the country. When the supreme court gets this, they will not accept it. And the 75% of Americans who are not his base would take up arms to defend their States sovereignty. Feds have ignored the 10th amendment and abused the commerce cease for 60+ years. Many of us are tired of it.

350 million firearms.

State officials who will not tolerate federal overreach.

It is less so now, but many Americans have more loyalty to their state than they do to the feds.

What we are seeing in MN is exactly what the American founders intended.

Armed citizens standing up to a corrupt federal policy.

I mentioned above the influence of Lockean political philosophy. And he talks about how when a government starts violating the social contract (life, liberty, property), there is a moral obligation to revolt.

I think you’re wasting your time giving intelligent answers, although, thank you for doing so 😊

Catpuss66 · 19/01/2026 02:20

Ruthietuthie · 17/01/2026 22:08

I grew up in the UK but have lived in the US for about twenty years. We are terrified, horrified, heart broken.
The murder of Renee Good, masked ICE agents grabbing people off the streets, the dismantling of vaccine programs, of universities, Venezuela (removing someone who was a dictator doesn't make it right to abandon all the rules), Greenland threats. It feels unbelievable and waking up each day like waking into a nightmare.

Can I ask you a question, happened to bump into a British person living in the US but was on holiday back in the uk. She said the democrats are evil. I asked her to name one thing they had done that was evil it got a bit heated. She said English press was giving misinformation. I follow YT the likes of Adam mockler, parkergetajob, think Ben Cohen. Yes they are probably what is called Liberal but the interview Trump followers. I digress, what I wanted to know why did she say they were Evil? how are the democrats portrayed in the US?

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 03:44

Hanginging · 18/01/2026 19:45

I hope you’re right. Do you know other Trump voters that are likely to change their vote next time?

I was wondering whether there might be a military / first responder contingent that voted for him, that might not be happy with what ICE is doing and the Greenland threats? What do you think?

I think the Greenland policy is actually a good idea. It would make both North America and Europe less exposed to any Russian or Chinese threat. It would secure the rare earth minerals for the Anglosphere. The way Trump is going about it is crazy. There is no reason to antagonize Europe. We should have sent people to advocate for this policy with Denmark and arrange some sort of purchase. So the policy makes sense, but the execution is an absolute mess.

I do think many voters will move to the democrats. This is usually how US politics work. One party is in for 8-12 years and then the other party is in for 8-10 years. Party loyalists may be loud, but independent voters outnumber them by a large margin.

AnotherBritInTheUSA · 19/01/2026 03:46

YourGoldSquid · 18/01/2026 09:31

Sure. But he's gone in 2 years. And Americans usually float back and forth. I fully expect a democrat President come 2029.

The press likes to scare people implying that Trump has more power than he actually has. He can't cancel elections. He can't send the army against US citizens.

I fully understand that we look crazy to Europeans, but this is why we own guns. If the feds want State authority, they will need to fight for it. And yes, there is that trope that "350 million semi-auto pistols and riles can oppose the US military." I think American and British troops who served in Iraq would agree that a bunch of shitty AK-47s and IEDs can be a real problem when trying to capture territory.

In the end, this is all your fault. :). We embrace the John Lockian right of revolution. And our philosophy is that the government won't be afraid of citizens unless they are armed. Again, I know this sounds nuts. But is is the American ethos.

This is why Trump will ultimately fail. Tyrants fall and individual Americans are pretty sensitive about the exercise of federal power.

He will not be “gone in 2 years”. You’re the second poster who has said that. The next presidential inauguration takes place on JANUARY 20, 2029. WE HAVE THREE MORE YEARS OF THIS.

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 04:00

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2026 01:47

Do you think Trump can be constrained by the Constitution? Who would have to do what to rein him in?

There is a fundamental issue at play here. And it has been part of American politics, literally from the beginning.

How much power does the president actually have? Congress declares war. The Senate ratifies treaties. The Senate also controls trade. Trump's tarrifs are very likely to be slapped down by the supreme court.

The modern problem is a direct result of Congress shirking their resposibilities and ceding more power to the President. The War Powers act is a perfect example. It authorizes the President to take military action but then Congress must authorize any escalation. But Congress doesn't want to deal with the political fallout of declaring war and so they allow the President to assume more power.

We've had strong President's before. Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln assume massive federal power, FDR, Nixon, etc. Bill Clinton is the opposite. The talk was nasty, but Clinton actually had a very productive relationship with Congress. They got a lot done during his 2nd term.

All of these claims that trump will cancel the midterms are nonsense. Elections are run by each State individually. There is no federal involvement or authority over the actual execution of an election.

For Trump to become an actual autocrat, he would have to:

  1. Gain control of all branches of the military. This would be impossible. And it is why we have separate branches to prevent an autocrat from controlling the military
  2. Convince county sheriffs in the States to stand down. Again, not likely.
  3. Consolidate all federal power to the Executive branch

IMO, there is no way Trump, or anyone else, could do this. Jackson failed. Lincoln has been the only President to accomplish anythig close to the above. The constituion is silent on whether states an succed. Lincolns philosophy was that no, they cannot. So he rallied Northern troops to force southern states back into the Union. Yes, slavery was the driving issue. But States's rights was also a big part of the political nature of the civil war.

People like to dump on Robert E. Lee. But his loyalty was to Virginia and he wanted to defend her against federal power. He opposed slavery but fought for Virginia. This was very common. Most people i the South didn't own slaves and opposed the practice. But because they were loyal to their State, they fought for the confederates.

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 04:09

AnotherBritInTheUSA · 19/01/2026 03:46

He will not be “gone in 2 years”. You’re the second poster who has said that. The next presidential inauguration takes place on JANUARY 20, 2029. WE HAVE THREE MORE YEARS OF THIS.

We'll survive. As I say, the SC is very likely to slap down Trump's tarrifs. He simply does not have the authority to do this. This lies with the Senate. Members of the court, especially Thomas and Alito are what we call textual purists. If the constituion doesn't explicitly grant power, they will rule against it. This is why Roe v. Wade was overturned. In the 70's the court said there is an inherent "right to privacy" in the constituion. But this simply isn't there. So Thomas and Alito ruled aginst this. The court is basically telling Congress that they have had 50 years to resolve the abortion issue. But it was too valuable as a political football. The SC does not have the authority to write law. And Roe v. Wade was essentially this. Congress needs to get their shit together and enshrine abortion rights at the federal level.

The SC has gone against Trump as much as they have ruled in his favor.

And the midterms are coming up. Once democrats control the house, Trump can accomplish nothing. The Speaker won't allow votes on Republican bills. He will be a lame duck.

But look, if Congress doesn't like how ICE is being used, they have the power to change it. They write laws and controlled both the Executive branch and legislative branch. Democrats had 4 years to change the law. Trump was telling them what he planned to do. Where are the bills to define the scope of ICE enforcement? Yes, they would need enough votes to overwride Trump's veto, but this isn't out of the question. Mainstream Republicans are very concerned about how he is going about these policies.

Overtheatlantic · 19/01/2026 04:25

Why are there so many blokes on this thread?

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 04:30

Overtheatlantic · 19/01/2026 04:25

Why are there so many blokes on this thread?

To derail and dominate women’s conversations.

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 05:23

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 04:30

To derail and dominate women’s conversations.

Yes! Absolutely true. A question was asked about American views of Trump. I answered as best I could. But you are absolutely right. I am only here to dominate women's conversations. I'm really a secret mysoginist who only pretends to care about women's rights. In truth, I want all women back in the kitchen.

Jesus Christ.

YourGoldSquid · 19/01/2026 05:28

In any case, thanks for the conversation. I've enjoyed it.

My understanding was that both fathers and mothers are welcome here. Apologies for not understanding.

YourGoldSquid out. Peace.

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 06:23

I mean, women are having their rights attacked left, right and centre, we don’t really have time for assuaging tantrums. Nobody is making you stay or leave, same as the rest of us.

EasternStandard · 19/01/2026 06:57

Hanginging · 19/01/2026 04:30

To derail and dominate women’s conversations.

Reading back posters were asking them questions which they replied to, you did too?

Catpuss66 · 19/01/2026 12:21

mids2019 · 18/01/2026 07:09

I really think here it is time for Denmark to step down here and seek Greenland for the sake of the greater geopolitical picture in a world where power counts. If Trump is determined to get Greenland and all the signals point that way then in reality he will get it. We in the UK are poised to suffer some economic harm as tariffs are placed on us and we have to ask for UK citizens is getting involved in this colonial power play over an arctic land mass really in our best jnterests? Surely our best interest lies in ensuring the US remains a steadfast economic and military ally by acquiesing on this issue although it is painful.

In reality we are just setting up ourselves for humiliation as Europeans by potentially watching US troops land in Greenland, bloodlesly taking the taking the Island, and have to face the fact that the US is still the backbone of western security so NATO will stand and we go back to the status quo.

I think I want your house to protect my house & I & all my mates are going to come & take it.
what an absolute crock of shit. England has always stood up to bully’s & they will too. Not sure I want to be ruled by a Russian because that what Trump & Farage will do hand over Europe to Putin.
you rhetoric screams of paid agitator.

Catpuss66 · 19/01/2026 12:27

rainandshine38 · 18/01/2026 08:20

Look at all the reform voters here who are basically wanting to follow suite. It’s depressing. We can’t look at the US and ask ‘but why are you voting for him’ when in 3 years time that will be us!

The only thing with reform is they are making their own polling company with address based the same as ukip, who was the head of UKIP….Farage.

sleepwouldbenice · 19/01/2026 13:09

Back to the question... how can anyone defend his letter to Norway. Incredulous

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