Trump taking over Greenland?

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Will anyone stop him?
What will Nato do?
What will Denmark do?
Are there plans in motion to stop this other than friendly diplomacy & gentle words?

To join in forces or not???

We may together have more aircraft but we have no political will to work closely. France will insist we all learn French before we can start

Eh? Do you actually keep up with current affairs? Perhaps you missed the joint UK/France announcement abput Ukraine.

We have an autonomous Sanctions Program which reflect our individual National Security interests. When we were part of the EU we lead the way now the EU are struggling to agree due to individual geopolitical interests

@AnnasFangs Apologies for misplaced humour.
Seriously there have been times when there has been a reluctance to work together.
Germany has been quite risk averse.

The US is currently trying to board the Bella 1 as mentioned by a poster early on in this thread.

Russia will not be happy.

Sorry, it went a bit over my head!

How am i wrong if you agree we have more planes? plus they are better ones too.

So UK French pilots didn't bomb Syria last week...

You re talk nonsense, forced into it, they'd fight and the over 400 deaths in Afghanistan suggests we would take casualties too.

The US cares very much about losses, as they should, Russia doesn't give a 4X.

The previous Govt ignored warnings and ran down capability.

Of the West? No-one because the West is not a single entity but a group of nations with shared history and similar cultures each with their own individual rulers🙄

The US likes to think of itself as 'the world's policeman' but the reality of that died a long time ago and is even less the case with their move towards isolationism.

They don't rule the UN - they are not the only one's with a veto, they are one of five permanent seats on the security council and they are bound by the same NATO rules as all other members.

If you are basing the idea of them being the 'ruler' of the West on their military might alone, then you are confusing 'ruler' with 'bully'.

Again, defence and national security are not governed by the EU, never has been.
We did not need EU "permission" to do what we thought necessary.

On EU "struggle to agree".... i must have missed the total support given to Ukraine of 168 billion, inc 70billion of military assistance......

Hungary should be kicked out of the EU, they do make life harder for the majority.

The generals know it is coming and are preparing the ground - there may be some reluctance, but they know it is coming - as I said, these are serious people who do not partake in hyperbole: https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/12/30/europes-generals-are-warning-people-to-prepare-for-war

The US / Greenland issue raises some interesting points on territorial claims.
In the last 50 years the UK has tended to operate on the basis of what the actual inhabitants of the disputed territory want. For example the Falkland Islanders and Gibraltans in referendum have clearly stated a preference to remain part of the UK. An obvious exception to this is the Chagos Islands where the views of Chagossians were completely ignored. Also parts of the UK such as Scotland were given the opportunity in a referendum for independence.

Other countries such as Argentina (wanting the Falklands) or Spain (wanting Gibraltar) tend to operate on geographical proximity where the views of the inhabitants seem to be of less relevance. Similarly regions such as Catalonia which had a referendum on independence were blocked from enacting this.

In the case of Greenland, its future status (either as an independent country or part of Denmark or the USA) should only decided by the 57,000 Greenlanders and not Denmark or the US.

Both Denmark and the US in any case have a weak claim to Greenland, although both have administered it in the past.

Currently the majority of Greenlanders want independence however as a country they are not self sufficient and currently rely on handouts from Denmark.

Goodness, some of us don't see being bilingual as a bad thing. You are being suspiciously negative.

Do you think the indigenous people of Greenland would prefer the U.S. in charge then? I think it is disingenuous to state it's somehow the same predicament for the people of Greenland.

Denmark has said that Greenland can be independent whenever they want, and Greenland is actively working towards being able to achieve this. So Denmark is not trying to insist on its claim any more, they’ve completely accepted the right of the local population to become independent when/if they want.

The US hasn’t had anything to do with Greenland for ages, and accepted Denmark’s claim to it when they bought what is now the US Virgin Islands from the Danish in 1917. The US never owned it, they just accepted that the Danish did, as they had for hundreds of years.

”The Disrupter” sure knows how to shake things up!
Bella 1 still on the run but change of course.

I thought they said they’d seized it now?

Bella 1 is seized.

An unnamed as of yet second ship seized by the US in the Caribbean as well.

I don’t think Europe will go to war with America - they can’t basically - but I do hope that someone somewhere is working out covert tactics to try and stop Trump if he does go too far.
The sort of things Britain could do include:
. Isolating America diplomatically and eroding America’s global standing.
. Covertly making alliances with other countries (with the shared goal of achieving regime change in America.)

• Discrediting Trump to the American public
• Trying to forge our own relationships/alliances with the Billionaires that surround him - identifying ways to separate their interests from Trump’s
• Helping other more reasonable American politicians - who might force Trump out
• Sidelining the US financially by supporting other financial systems
• Providing clandestine aid to resistance in Greenland

Look what happened last time Labour helped the Democrats…

Trump is a Republican, though he was originally a Democrat...

The only people who can get rid of Trump are the Republicans.

Perhaps your statement would be better phrased as "Look what happened when the Conservatives helped the Republicans"

We got Trump, twice!

@1dayatatime I understood Greenland is an much a part of Denmark as any other part of Denmark, as it was fully incorporated in 1953

Greenland is an autonomous territory with control over various areas of its own governing. It even left the EU, despite Denmark remaining (although it isn’t treated like any other country outside of the EU, given its relationship with Denmark).

Similar to the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. Similar populations too.

Not at all - on latest opinion polls 85% of the population want Greenland to be an independent nation. However it is currently not economically viable and receives state subsidies from Denmark. That said their income from natural resources is increasing so it shouldn't be too long before they can stand on their own.

However it will still need a defence partnership.

And do you think they would want that partnership with the U.S. or Denmark?