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Springonway1 · 04/01/2026 09:58

DuffCooper · 04/01/2026 09:56

A man is known by the company he keeps.

Well better the leader of the free world than an Egyptian anti semite who wants to kill us all as we are dogs and monkeys.

DuffCooper · 04/01/2026 10:02

Springonway1 · 04/01/2026 09:58

Well better the leader of the free world than an Egyptian anti semite who wants to kill us all as we are dogs and monkeys.

So you're pro Trump as well as Farage eh?

UniquePinkSwan · 04/01/2026 10:17

Obama is mentioned…

1dayatatime · 04/01/2026 10:28

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 09:15

Better an armchair sneer than violence towards minority groups. You're aware that among Reform protesters and flag flyers, between 1/3 and 1/2 have domestic violence convictions.

Now, of course they're entitled to hold political opinions. And if you're happy to be part of a group of supporters such as those, not to mention the Reform councillors who have publicly espoused racist beliefs and comments, then you do you.

But you're not siding with the great thinkers of the world. So call it snobbery if you want. But siding with thugs and racists isn't an intelligent choice.

I'm no fan of Kier Starmer, but I can tell the difference between him as a politician and Farage.

Thank you for your response and it is a perfect example of how the real threat of intolerance and authoritarianism now comes not from the far right but from the far left.

You state that everyone is entitled to their own opinions but if those opinions are contrary to your own then you are a racist and a thug and most likely a perpetrator of domestic violence. It is a small step to go from such extreme intolerance to outlawing opposing opinions (after all they all racist, thick wife beating thugs).

So thank for slipping off the mask and showing us how you really think.

1dayatatime · 04/01/2026 10:29

UniquePinkSwan · 04/01/2026 10:17

Obama is mentioned…

So is the Queen and so is the Pope.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 10:31

1dayatatime · 04/01/2026 10:28

Thank you for your response and it is a perfect example of how the real threat of intolerance and authoritarianism now comes not from the far right but from the far left.

You state that everyone is entitled to their own opinions but if those opinions are contrary to your own then you are a racist and a thug and most likely a perpetrator of domestic violence. It is a small step to go from such extreme intolerance to outlawing opposing opinions (after all they all racist, thick wife beating thugs).

So thank for slipping off the mask and showing us how you really think.

The mask, as you call it, is the thin veneer of civility worn by suited thugs such as Farage and Yaxley-Lennon.

There is clear, statistical evidence of CONVICTIONS for domestic violence within Reform supporters. As in arrested and convicted in court.

How do you misunderstand that? I presume you accept the judgement of the British legal system?

Springonway1 · 04/01/2026 10:33

DuffCooper · 04/01/2026 10:02

So you're pro Trump as well as Farage eh?

No. I don't know why you extrapolate things so readily.

I thought that it would be unarguable that Trump would be a better friend for the UK to have on side than Alaa Abd El-Fattah. But clearly to the left an anti semite who urges British people to be killed is the better option. That's rather why people may have a slight issue with Labour these days...

1dayatatime · 04/01/2026 10:47

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 10:31

The mask, as you call it, is the thin veneer of civility worn by suited thugs such as Farage and Yaxley-Lennon.

There is clear, statistical evidence of CONVICTIONS for domestic violence within Reform supporters. As in arrested and convicted in court.

How do you misunderstand that? I presume you accept the judgement of the British legal system?

Edited

Thank you again for yet another revealing post.

Stating a linkage between domestic violence convictions and voting for reform doesn't make it true simply because you write in BLOCK CAPITALS. You actually need real evidence and links. The reality is that this is impossible to prove or disprove because political affiliation does not form part of the prosecution case for domestic violence.

That said I can understand that you may sympathise with intolerant authoritarian far left regimes where actual evidence is not necessary for a conviction, simply holding an opposing view is enough.

But your posts are very helpful on revealing the intolerant far left mind set and please keep responding.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 10:57

1dayatatime · 04/01/2026 10:47

Thank you again for yet another revealing post.

Stating a linkage between domestic violence convictions and voting for reform doesn't make it true simply because you write in BLOCK CAPITALS. You actually need real evidence and links. The reality is that this is impossible to prove or disprove because political affiliation does not form part of the prosecution case for domestic violence.

That said I can understand that you may sympathise with intolerant authoritarian far left regimes where actual evidence is not necessary for a conviction, simply holding an opposing view is enough.

But your posts are very helpful on revealing the intolerant far left mind set and please keep responding.

OK, so clearly you just don't really care that there is evidence that Reform attracts violent criminals. Says it all really.

1dayatatime · 04/01/2026 11:35

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 10:57

OK, so clearly you just don't really care that there is evidence that Reform attracts violent criminals. Says it all really.

Once more another revealing post that is another clear example of intolerance and authoritarianism namely planting false information or stories repeatedly in the hope that even a small portion of it will stick and create doubts.

You see stating that "Party X attracts violent criminals" and claiming that there is "supporting evidence" without actually providing that "supporting evidence" doesn't make it true. It's a bit like the Stalinist show trials where political dissidents were convicted on the evidence of surveillance or witnesses that couldn't be disclosed.

Or for a more simple example, stating that the moon is made of cheese and claiming there is "supporting evidence " but not disclosed that evidence doesn't make it true. Whereas an Apollo mission sample taken from the moon showing it to be comprised principally of Cheddar with an inner core of Camembert and trace elements of Wensleydale might be a more compelling case.

But cheese aside please keep responding as your posts are such easy and clear examples for people to understand about left wing authoritarianism and intolerance.

Dragonflytamer · 04/01/2026 12:42

Labour fans are just going to keep scrapping the barrel to slander Farage. Whilst their mighty leader keeps trashing the economy and taxing us more. Who knows what Starmer will find to tax in the next budget; people whose name starts with a N? Maybe a garden tax based on how many flowers you have, or a laughter tax to take the remaining joy from life.

Dragonflytamer · 04/01/2026 12:58

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 10:57

OK, so clearly you just don't really care that there is evidence that Reform attracts violent criminals. Says it all really.

Reform attracts voters from all walks of life, that is how they get 30% of the polls. Within that will be some violent criminals, same with the conservatives. Obviously a lesser extent labour because hardly anyone is voting labour.

HellsBalls · 04/01/2026 19:20

Here I am listening to LBC where the topic is that more than 20% of Mumsnetters have skewed to backing reform.
Looks like no matter how people dress up the meagre benefits of immigration, finally people are waking up to the more obvious negatives.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 21:55

1dayatatime · 04/01/2026 11:35

Once more another revealing post that is another clear example of intolerance and authoritarianism namely planting false information or stories repeatedly in the hope that even a small portion of it will stick and create doubts.

You see stating that "Party X attracts violent criminals" and claiming that there is "supporting evidence" without actually providing that "supporting evidence" doesn't make it true. It's a bit like the Stalinist show trials where political dissidents were convicted on the evidence of surveillance or witnesses that couldn't be disclosed.

Or for a more simple example, stating that the moon is made of cheese and claiming there is "supporting evidence " but not disclosed that evidence doesn't make it true. Whereas an Apollo mission sample taken from the moon showing it to be comprised principally of Cheddar with an inner core of Camembert and trace elements of Wensleydale might be a more compelling case.

But cheese aside please keep responding as your posts are such easy and clear examples for people to understand about left wing authoritarianism and intolerance.

Word salad. Thanks for the permission.

That's what happens on discussion forums. Discussion. Not just an echo chamber.

Vote fascist if you want. At least you have the right to vote.

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 07:53

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/01/2026 21:55

Word salad. Thanks for the permission.

That's what happens on discussion forums. Discussion. Not just an echo chamber.

Vote fascist if you want. At least you have the right to vote.

Theres a difference between "discussion" and talking absolute nonsense.

"Vote fascist if you want" QED.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/01/2026 09:16

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 07:53

Theres a difference between "discussion" and talking absolute nonsense.

"Vote fascist if you want" QED.

What else would you call people that incite racial hatred?

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 09:19

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/01/2026 09:16

What else would you call people that incite racial hatred?

Reform aren't a fascist party. And their MPs don't incite racial hatred.

I thought we had all learned about inappropriate over-use of the words "fascist" and "racist"?

luckylavender · 05/01/2026 09:23

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 09:30

I dont think there are "rich pickings". Hes been in politics for 30 years and scrutinised and pilloried throughout. People know what they are getting already.

The latest story about his school days is desperate and ridiculous because it's clearly a political hit job (particularly listening to one of the "victims" describing what happened 50 years ago on Radio 4 and then ruining it by then criticising Farage's current politics which was amusing).

Most people are reasonable. Most people don't judge a person on their behaviour at school many decades ago in a different time with a different culture. People criticising Farage as a child are at the same time supporters of current and former Labour Cabinet ministers or PMs who behave badly now as adults while actually in power.

Having said that I do expect the hit jobs to continue from Labour. Dominic Cummings predicted they will go for everything they can. Bank accounts, health records etc by fair or foul means. Not pleasant for anyone. But NF should take some comfort in knowing that most people (even if they aren't Reform voters) will know what Labour are up to.

Edited

I think there is a hell if a lot the public don’t know about him. His Belgian residence for example. Mind you Tice, that famous patriot lives in Dubai.

NormasArse · 05/01/2026 09:25

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 09:19

Reform aren't a fascist party. And their MPs don't incite racial hatred.

I thought we had all learned about inappropriate over-use of the words "fascist" and "racist"?

What are Reform?

What clear policies do they have?

Can you give an example of when Farage has told the truth when questioned, or does he deflect? Can you give an example of when one of his promises has been realised?

It isn’t a left wing thing to not trust someone who has repeatedly been slippery and dishonest.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/01/2026 09:25

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 09:19

Reform aren't a fascist party. And their MPs don't incite racial hatred.

I thought we had all learned about inappropriate over-use of the words "fascist" and "racist"?

But without wanting to enrage you (genuinely, you're a random on the internet that I don't know and therefore really don't care about enough to want to piss you off), there is so much evidence about their supporters and councillors either engaging in violence over race or making offensive comments about people of other ethnicities.

Now, in general, people that aren't racist don't do those things. So if they do it and say it, it's fair to assume that is their belief system.

Possibly not yours. But if not, why would you support a party for whom it is a key element of their make-up?

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 09:31

NormasArse · 05/01/2026 09:25

What are Reform?

What clear policies do they have?

Can you give an example of when Farage has told the truth when questioned, or does he deflect? Can you give an example of when one of his promises has been realised?

It isn’t a left wing thing to not trust someone who has repeatedly been slippery and dishonest.

That's a bit of an odd post.

Clear policies...look at the Reform website I assume? Probably not the space here for me to run through them if you can just Google their website. I assume they will change before they release their manifesto in 2029.

No idea re NF telling the truth. He sounds like he is. "What has he said that is a provable lie?" is probably a better question.

What promises can he make that are realised? He's not in power.

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 09:36

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/01/2026 09:25

But without wanting to enrage you (genuinely, you're a random on the internet that I don't know and therefore really don't care about enough to want to piss you off), there is so much evidence about their supporters and councillors either engaging in violence over race or making offensive comments about people of other ethnicities.

Now, in general, people that aren't racist don't do those things. So if they do it and say it, it's fair to assume that is their belief system.

Possibly not yours. But if not, why would you support a party for whom it is a key element of their make-up?

I would never be "enraged" by MN. And you won't be able to "piss me off" as presumably I won't be able to piss you off.

I don't support Reform. Im a Conservative at the moment. But I will vote tactically (against all my hitherto held standards) to keep out Labour if I have to, so I may end up voting Reform.

I think NF has acknowledged that their vetting system hasn't been good enough. Obviously having racists in the party is a very bad thing if they want to get elected as it will deter voters so presumably once their organisation gets better this won't happen. As they want to get elected. All parties have bad apples TBF.

Springonway1 · 05/01/2026 09:40

luckylavender · 05/01/2026 09:23

I think there is a hell if a lot the public don’t know about him. His Belgian residence for example. Mind you Tice, that famous patriot lives in Dubai.

Maybe. But hes been in politics for 30 years and under negative scrutiny all that time. People have been desperate to discredit him and find dirt obviously. And nothing major has come up really. So voters probably have a better idea of what they are getting with him more than anyone.