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Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 15:01

tobee · 03/01/2026 14:59

Labour politicians don't seem to get the same scrutiny.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Have you ever seen The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Express? Not to mention the other papers that also scrutinise the Labour Party despite not being overtly as right leaning?

Yes but what happens after the scrutiny? Not much. In fact you can still be PM, Chancellor, Education Secretary or in line to be the next leader!

I keep repeating this point.

tobee · 03/01/2026 15:01

Yes but Ange is still in the running to be leader!

Angela Rayner is in the so called running to be leader as much as anyone is. What's your point?

WinterSonnet · 03/01/2026 15:01

Fluffyholeysocks · 03/01/2026 14:21

Its weird how this stuff can be dredged up about Farage from 40/50 years ago but no one was aware of the more recent SM posts of the Egyptian activist that had apparently been ' top priority' for UKMG.

It is also weird that many, including NF, dismiss the accusations - and there are many accounts on record - as youthful folly.

But Shamima Begum, at 15, was fully aware of what she was doing.

I recognise a certain poster on here. A different name, but they stand out.

Farage fangirls make me sick.

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 15:02

tobee · 03/01/2026 15:01

Yes but Ange is still in the running to be leader!

Angela Rayner is in the so called running to be leader as much as anyone is. What's your point?

Shes corrupt?

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 15:04

WinterSonnet · 03/01/2026 15:01

It is also weird that many, including NF, dismiss the accusations - and there are many accounts on record - as youthful folly.

But Shamima Begum, at 15, was fully aware of what she was doing.

I recognise a certain poster on here. A different name, but they stand out.

Farage fangirls make me sick.

You're assuming people agree about Shamima Begum. TBF what she did is actually on the record as fact. Unlike NF.

Its not "fangirling" whatever that rather dismissive phrase means to stick up for the right thing. The left have become so corrupted and hypocritical they can no longer judge what is fair, just and reasonable. They need to remember the boot could easily be on the other foot.

tobee · 03/01/2026 15:08

Are you new to politics @Springonway1 ?

You seem to have very little depth of knowledge.

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 15:12

tobee · 03/01/2026 15:08

Are you new to politics @Springonway1 ?

You seem to have very little depth of knowledge.

You seem to be rather rude. Let's see how much "politics" you understand.

Angela Raynor inflated the price of her house deliberately so that her son's trust would pay more to buy her share. Exactly the amount needed for the deposit on her Brighton flat uncannily.

The question for you is "Do we expect a certain level of probity in our lawmakers?"

BadgernTheGarden · 03/01/2026 15:15

1dayatatime · 03/01/2026 10:03

Wasn't she a bit old for him?

Fluffyholeysocks · 03/01/2026 15:25

WinterSonnet · 03/01/2026 15:01

It is also weird that many, including NF, dismiss the accusations - and there are many accounts on record - as youthful folly.

But Shamima Begum, at 15, was fully aware of what she was doing.

I recognise a certain poster on here. A different name, but they stand out.

Farage fangirls make me sick.

I'm no Farage 'fangirl'. I won"t be voting for him. But this negative smearing of politicians makes me sick just as 'farage fangirls' make you sick.
I'm dismayed to see people voicing their intention to 'vote for xxxx to keep Reform/Labour/Tories" out. I have never be so disillusioned and underwhelmed by our current elected representatives. I want to be inspired and impressed by a prospective MP's. I don't want all these negative, dismissive and sometimes desperate accusations being the main issues. Let's do better - get better quality candidates to represent us instead of holding our noses to vote for the least worse option.

EEexpat · 03/01/2026 15:43

If Reform weren’t top of the poles, I would guess this thread would not have been started.

Happyher · 03/01/2026 17:02

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 10:55

Yes but Ange is still in the running to be leader! Thats my point. Scrutinise away as much as you like. Keir is still in his post despite being rather keen on people buying political influence from him using freebies. Labour are highly corrupt. Also shown by their cancellation of elections.

No consequences from scrutiny if you're Labour. And thats because the left believe in their own virtue. They can behave as badly as they like but because they are "good" they don't need to bear the consequences. They don't give Farage the same leeway as he is on the right and therefore in their view "bad". Not in everyone else's view obviously. But they can't see that.

She resigned as deputy PM and deputy leader for a mistake caused by bad advice. She was scrutinised and accepted the decision and took the consequences. The electorate will have the final say. She’s not really a good example counter the argument that Farage shouldn’t face scrutiny. Still waiting to know who bought his Clacton House - his constituents have a right to know

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 17:15

Happyher · 03/01/2026 17:02

She resigned as deputy PM and deputy leader for a mistake caused by bad advice. She was scrutinised and accepted the decision and took the consequences. The electorate will have the final say. She’s not really a good example counter the argument that Farage shouldn’t face scrutiny. Still waiting to know who bought his Clacton House - his constituents have a right to know

Shes still an MP. And shes a serious leadership contender. She epitomises all that is wrong with Westminster at the moment and why people despise all politicians. Bad advice is no defence for HMRC for normal people. And in the case of the inflated value of her house meaning she got the exact amount for her deposit, I think its a bit of a step to try and blame the advisors!

Im not using her as an example of why NF shouldn't be scrutinised. Im using her as an example of the fact that despite scrutiny, not much happens to Labour MPs once they are found guilty of bending the old rules or lying. Same as RR, Keir Starmer etc. I think this is because they think they are "good" people so whatever bad things they do, they cant be punished properly ie be sacked as MPs/resign as Chancellor or PM etc as they are "good". But right wing people would have to be properly punished as they are "bad".

Thats just my opinion though as I do appreciate she is popular with the Labour Party.

DuffCooper · 03/01/2026 17:16

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You're going to make something up about a poster and repeat it in order to discredit their arguments.

That's a strange thing to admit.

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 17:20

DuffCooper · 03/01/2026 17:16

You're going to make something up about a poster and repeat it in order to discredit their arguments.

That's a strange thing to admit.

No. If you had read what he had said from the start, Im using that as an example of exactly what he is doing to Farage.

People are saying things about NF which NF denies.

Same in this case. I am saying something about the PP which the PP denies.

But the PP expects us to believe him but won't believe NF.

Its just an example of the hypocrisy of the left. One rule for them. Another rule for the right.

Theres a parable about that somewhere!

WinterSonnet · 03/01/2026 17:21

This is a very pointless thread. I imagine it was set up so.

NF has featured throughout.

It is so obvious.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 03/01/2026 17:21

Springonway1 · 02/01/2026 19:41

Yes I think we are all expecting a lot of hit jobs attempts on Farage between now and 2029.

Or the truth. Shit sticks to shit. As well as other things.

Freysimo · 03/01/2026 17:23

BohoGarden · 03/01/2026 10:25

@Springonway1 "Labour politicians don't seem to get the same scrutiny."

You don't think Angela Raynor has been subject to the same level of scrutiny as Farage?

She might have been but what about MP Nick Brown? Labour has kept that well under wraps with an an alleged injunction. It comes up on X a lot.

joeninetey · 03/01/2026 17:24

Don't forget Epstein was a leading financial, social and political entity, quite apart from all the sordidness that we now know. You don't/can't ignore people that are worth in excess of $1.5 billion.

WinterSonnet · 03/01/2026 17:24

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Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 17:24

Slightyamusedandsilly · 03/01/2026 17:21

Or the truth. Shit sticks to shit. As well as other things.

There's a thing called due process though. Hit jobs done by fair means or foul are demeaning to an already despised political system. And also very obvious!

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 17:25

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You sound deranged. Calm down dear.

NormasArse · 03/01/2026 17:25

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 09:30

I dont think there are "rich pickings". Hes been in politics for 30 years and scrutinised and pilloried throughout. People know what they are getting already.

The latest story about his school days is desperate and ridiculous because it's clearly a political hit job (particularly listening to one of the "victims" describing what happened 50 years ago on Radio 4 and then ruining it by then criticising Farage's current politics which was amusing).

Most people are reasonable. Most people don't judge a person on their behaviour at school many decades ago in a different time with a different culture. People criticising Farage as a child are at the same time supporters of current and former Labour Cabinet ministers or PMs who behave badly now as adults while actually in power.

Having said that I do expect the hit jobs to continue from Labour. Dominic Cummings predicted they will go for everything they can. Bank accounts, health records etc by fair or foul means. Not pleasant for anyone. But NF should take some comfort in knowing that most people (even if they aren't Reform voters) will know what Labour are up to.

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So pretty much what happened to Jeremy Corbyn?

Except, Farage’s vitriol against anyone of colour is well documented throughout his life- not just at school.

I can remember being upset that he’d been voted in as an MEP years ago, because of his very clear racism. Long before he royally screwed the UK over through Brexit.

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 17:30

NormasArse · 03/01/2026 17:25

So pretty much what happened to Jeremy Corbyn?

Except, Farage’s vitriol against anyone of colour is well documented throughout his life- not just at school.

I can remember being upset that he’d been voted in as an MEP years ago, because of his very clear racism. Long before he royally screwed the UK over through Brexit.

Hes actually not shown any racism throughout his political career. The guy who did his biography confirmed it despite not being a Farage fan.

He didnt screw the UK over Brexit. He wasnt in power and has never been. People just agreed with what he said. There's a difference.

Probably what happened to Corbyn, yes. Although he was on record with his comments about Hamas etc unlike the comments NF said when he was a child at school.

Amazingly Im not a Farage supporter despite appearances on this thread (Im still a Conservative sadly) . I just don't like the hypocrisy and lies that the left come out with. And they are in power at the moment so need a bit of a pushback. Reform are the only ones really doing that at the moment.

Happyher · 03/01/2026 17:32

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 17:15

Shes still an MP. And shes a serious leadership contender. She epitomises all that is wrong with Westminster at the moment and why people despise all politicians. Bad advice is no defence for HMRC for normal people. And in the case of the inflated value of her house meaning she got the exact amount for her deposit, I think its a bit of a step to try and blame the advisors!

Im not using her as an example of why NF shouldn't be scrutinised. Im using her as an example of the fact that despite scrutiny, not much happens to Labour MPs once they are found guilty of bending the old rules or lying. Same as RR, Keir Starmer etc. I think this is because they think they are "good" people so whatever bad things they do, they cant be punished properly ie be sacked as MPs/resign as Chancellor or PM etc as they are "good". But right wing people would have to be properly punished as they are "bad".

Thats just my opinion though as I do appreciate she is popular with the Labour Party.

My point is that Farage hates scrutiny and seems to think he shouldn’t be subject to it. Both Labour and Tory MPs have come under scrutiny. If they survive it means the electorate aren’t as bothered as the media. If Farage objects to people looking into his affairs now, how is he ever going to cope should he become PM, when he is under the spotlight every minute of the day

Springonway1 · 03/01/2026 17:35

Happyher · 03/01/2026 17:32

My point is that Farage hates scrutiny and seems to think he shouldn’t be subject to it. Both Labour and Tory MPs have come under scrutiny. If they survive it means the electorate aren’t as bothered as the media. If Farage objects to people looking into his affairs now, how is he ever going to cope should he become PM, when he is under the spotlight every minute of the day

That I do agree with. Hes going to have to experience even worse than even he has for the last 30 years. As Keir Starmer says, he can stand the Conservatives winning but he can't agree to Reform winning. So hes going to do everything he can to stop it. And it will be dirty (being Labour). So yes it will be a test of NFs stamina and thick skin and how much he really wants to be PM.

The one good thing is that the electorate know this.