Luxury cars removed from the motability scheme

[AutumnLeavesandKnittedJumpers]

https://news.sky.com/story/luxury-cars-removed-from-motability-scheme-ahead-of-budget-13475029

too little too late. As a full time worker I can’t afford to run a car, let alone a luxury car. Motability should be a standard car - available in automatic and manual, an option for wheelchair users, and that’s it.

Jesus christ, where is your bloody compassion.

I think it’s an entirely reasonable question given the OPs stance . What else could it actually boil down to except jealousy ? So perhaps @AutumnLeavesandKnittedJumpers might answer and clarify their position because it’s just looking like they envy the lifestyle of a disabled person ?

It’s perfectly legitimate when that particular poster has talked about disabled people’s ’better standard of life’ and exhibited barely concealed jealousy that they get something she can’t

"I'm black so I can't be racist".

Yep.

I'm still waiting to hear about this better standard of life because I have a disabled child.

Another classic for the 'Mumsnet 2025' folder.

So, jealousy. Thanks for confirming.

Nope. Sick of taxpayers being bled dry for shit like a Merc.

How about trips out that aren't for hospital visits? Going to and from work, perhaps, or even (Heaven forfend!) going out on social occasions sometimes?

A few years back, the then government cut the criteria for PIP HRM from being able to reliably walk 50m down to 20m. A large number of people lost their PIP award and, therefore, their Motability car as a result. A great many of these had relied on the car to enable them to work.

I remember hearing of one woman, but she will have been one of many, who was given support from Access to Work, to allow her to continue in employment. They agreed to pay for a taxi to and from work. This cost about the same, per day, as her Motability car had cost per week, while giving her far less in the way of independence as, of course, it only allowed for trips to and from work.

It isn’t really when it’s a hypothetical thought experiment that has no bearing on reality.Her answer doesn’t change a thing, regardless of what it is. It’s just yet more emotional blackmail which is not helpful and not what we should base decisions regarding provision and spending upon.

What luxury ? Disabled people get a mobility allowance payable at two rates. The lower rate doesn’t qualify for motability. To qualify you have to be in receipt of the higher rate with at least three years of award before review. This encompasses the very most disabled people. What is it you’re objecting to - the fact that they get an allowance at alll, or the fact that the most disadvantaged can swap it for a car that they will never own ?

And people still seem to not understand that this is not going to save a single penny of your tax money. The money will still be being paid out as PIP (mobility part) and you will not be saving any money at all. Now doesnt it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside that you may have stopped a family with a disabled child or an older person having any form of independence and being able to work just so you could shout "shouldn't be allowed nice things".

Ffs, people need to take a long hard look at themselves. I dont have any skin in the game as luckily I am not disabled, but it could happen to any one of us in a blink of an eye.

What a sad little life you must have.

Utter bollocks.

The person pays the difference to have a more luxury car- if you are still not understanding this after all the pages of people trying to explain a pretty simple system, have you considered applying for PIP yourself?

You're doing this on purpose now.

I have been destroyed. I’ve been told that I’m a leach and a parasite for living at home as an adult

@AutumnLeavesandKnittedJumpers Why would anyone care if you are living at home as an adult ? Plenty of people are having to do this for various reasons. You are right that owning a car can be expensive, but it is often more about priorities, I need a car for my job, they won't even interview a person for the role I do, who doesn't have a car, if you don't need a car for your job and you can use public transport then you might prioritise saving money for a house deposit or paying off debt. Everyone has different priorities and spends or uses their money accordingly I spend too much of mine on wine

This.

everyone who gets the mobility component of Pip gets the same amount.

I’m interested who in OPs life has called them a leech and a parasite? And why? Something seems a bit strange here the level of jealousy and resentment coming across in OP posts is immense

So disabled people should only have basic cars even if they can contribute an amount themselves.

I get pip and I agree. If you can afford the massive amount to lease a luxury car (with government subsidies) you can go without the subsidy and lease a standard car. The subsidy isn’t there to upgrade you from a mondeo /peugeot/renault to a Mercedes, it’s there to provide help to those who can’t afford a car. It’s taking the piss.

Just a Robin Reliant eh?

No it’s not bollocks just because you don’t agree with it. What exactly would her answer change? Absolutely nothing. It’s just pointless emotional blackmail. It gets us about as far as swearing at and insulting at people you disagree with and there’s been plenty of that on this thread. I am disabled btw.

Only 10% of motability cars are adapted in any way, the vast majority are leased as they are. So a huge proportion of the people driving prestige cars leased on motability aren’t leasing them for adaptation.

There’s about a 54% employment rate for people with disabilities, so a significant number are living on benefits of some kind. Taking into consideration the significant level
of disability required to qualify for the highest rate of mobility payment needed to qualify for motability, it’s reasonable to think a higher proportion of people claiming have limited access to work.

Whether someone should be able to lease a prestige car on benefits is a complex question but let’s recognise that for the vast majority it’s not about whether the car can be adapted, as very few actually are.