Luxury cars removed from the motability scheme

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https://news.sky.com/story/luxury-cars-removed-from-motability-scheme-ahead-of-budget-13475029

too little too late. As a full time worker I can’t afford to run a car, let alone a luxury car. Motability should be a standard car - available in automatic and manual, an option for wheelchair users, and that’s it.

Not. Means. Tested.

Disabled people work. Pay taxes. Some of them save to get nice things. You seem to be saying they should either be penniless and grateful or entitled to not one bit of help to mitigate the additional costs of having a disability.

I mean if you’re that desperate for a nice car you could always lop a leg off.

I've got to wonder about the motives of the posters of previous threads who were stirring up outrage about luxury cars on motability so close to this announcement. I've seen it in newspapers before, where the fail and express whip up a frenzy about something just before the law changes. The most notable one I can remember was when they changed housing benefit to LHA where there had been a string of stories about people on HB who were renting mansions.

This is going to save the taxpayer £0. The jealousy of some people is bewildering.

Do you think someone being able to afford a £4,000 payment means they shouldn’t be entitled to the mobility component of PIP/DLA?

Maybe people's disabilities reduce as their savings increase.

which it seems they are looking into

This thread is just impossible. No one reads the previous posts and the same tropes are trotted out again and again, despite explanations being patiently given.
It's like people want to be misinformed and perpetuate that misinformation🧐.

It's not just physically disabled people My son currently gets HRM under severe mental impairment rules on DLA
Although he can walk for miles at nearly 16 he has the cognitive ability of a toddler
I csnt see this changing when he transfers to PIP next year becsuse he can't plan a journey he needs 1: 1 supervision at all times.

The same way that pensioners can’t claim PIP unless they claim before they are pensioners
in which case they continue to get it

So it seems you aren’t classed as disabled if you become so once you’re a pensioner.

People who need a WAV have a minimum non-refundable deposit of £4,000 every 3-5 years, they then have to pay for any adaptions, they also have to pay for them to be removed when the lease ends. How many wheelchair users do you know who can afford thousands of pounds every 3-5 years without making huge sacrifices and can support themselves with zero support?

Just like the education tax then.

This is the real crux of it. I didn’t choose to be disabled. I (and every other parent) did choose to have children.

All those of you whining about the government subsiding my car, why the fuck are they subsidising your procreation?

Another day, another horrifically ableist thread on Mumsnet. Why are disabled people considered the lowest of the low?

If there was no extra advantage to using the motability scheme then people could take their PIP payments and lease cars in the normal way. There would be no need for any discussion, there must be a benefit over and above the pip payment to using the scheme. For some that will be the adaptations, for many it will be because it's cheaper to use motability versus an equivalent lease (rightly or wrongly). The savings must be coming from somewhere, whether that's bulk buying discounts or VAT exemptions or something else. It certainly doesn't appear to be coming from paying the CEO less!

I don't think anyone is suggesting people missing legs shouldn't get help with a disability car. However this system is definitely being abused. My mother in law has 2 elderly friends who are entitled to cars under this scheme. Neither of them has ever driven. The reality of the situation is that their son/daughter has full use of the cars for travel to work etc and the vehicles are kept at the offspings' house. They are only used in relation to the old ladies to occasionally take them shopping. I cannot believe this was the intended purpose if this scheme.

So you think a wheelchair users disability decreases over time? Care to share this amazing data?

Motability is a charity. They are paying those costs.

I think they were being sarcastic?

I was being sarcastic. (I can appreciate how that may not have been apparent, given some of the opinions being spouted on here)

Yeah my son won't ever be able to drive ,his Dad is the named driver ,its allowed to be used as the family car
It is intended to benefit the disabled person but they don't need to be in the car or dive the car.

Apologies!

I completely agree that child benefit should be stopped, too. I think it’s a joke that working people get very little help these days but everyone else is being handed money

Disabled people are working people!
(Parents are also working people.)

Bitter much 😂😂😂😂

We see you, OP. We see you.

So fucking report them then.