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Charlie Kirk's beliefs

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MsAmerica · 15/09/2025 02:29

If You're Wondering What Charlie Kirk Believed In, Here Are 14 Real Quotes
In light of his death, Charlie Kirk's legacy is being remembered through these viral quotes.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexalisitza/viral-charlie-kirk-quotes

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TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:15

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 10:40

Not exactly "BY FORCE"

In your own words - lobbying, campaigning. That is the lawful way to do things. Democratic.

Not assassinating someone to shut them up.

Of course it’s by force, if one group in society imposes their extreme personal views on another and succeeds into making it law that other people have their basic rights to financial freedom, sexual consent, education, reproductive freedom etc removed, that parents who don’t subscribed to Kirk’s opinion that 10 year old rape victims should be forced to give birth are forced by law to inflict this on their own children, etc. Do you think that appalling policies have never been forced onto a population via “democratic votes”? I was criticised earlier for stating that people should read some history books if they are really this oblivious but it clearly is required given ongoing comments like this.

EasternStandard · 17/09/2025 11:16

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:15

Of course it’s by force, if one group in society imposes their extreme personal views on another and succeeds into making it law that other people have their basic rights to financial freedom, sexual consent, education, reproductive freedom etc removed, that parents who don’t subscribed to Kirk’s opinion that 10 year old rape victims should be forced to give birth are forced by law to inflict this on their own children, etc. Do you think that appalling policies have never been forced onto a population via “democratic votes”? I was criticised earlier for stating that people should read some history books if they are really this oblivious but it clearly is required given ongoing comments like this.

People still need to vote.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 17/09/2025 11:17

Underthinker · 17/09/2025 10:57

I don't know nothing about him. I watched a handful of his videos, agreed with some, disagreed with others. I knew him to be close to Trump, whom I strongly dislike.

Then he was shot, and I said online that I was sad to hear that, and someone replied "chat shit get bangd" and I then I realised we had a societal problem.

It was at that point where you realised there was a societal problem and not, say, the Jan 6 riots, or the right's response to the death of George Floyd, or the right's response to the attack on the Pelosis?

How peculiar.

BananaPeels · 17/09/2025 11:17

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:15

Of course it’s by force, if one group in society imposes their extreme personal views on another and succeeds into making it law that other people have their basic rights to financial freedom, sexual consent, education, reproductive freedom etc removed, that parents who don’t subscribed to Kirk’s opinion that 10 year old rape victims should be forced to give birth are forced by law to inflict this on their own children, etc. Do you think that appalling policies have never been forced onto a population via “democratic votes”? I was criticised earlier for stating that people should read some history books if they are really this oblivious but it clearly is required given ongoing comments like this.

But come the next election, if a government has pushed through laws that the electorate don’t want then they can be voted out and the new government can undo them. That’s democracy.

ColdSalads · 17/09/2025 11:21

Underthinker · 17/09/2025 11:13

@Plastictreees
Not lying?
I think you said the same yesterday after I pointed out someone insisted on hearing words in a CK video that werent there. In that video where the claim was that CK said..

“Black women do not have brain processing power..."

  1. Did he say those words or not?
  2. Is it a lie or not?
Edited

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-black-women/

Thats the truth of it all, however, it was not "all black women" which is what your insinuating.

He was talking specifically about television presenter Joy Reid.

Underthinker · 17/09/2025 11:23

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 17/09/2025 11:17

It was at that point where you realised there was a societal problem and not, say, the Jan 6 riots, or the right's response to the death of George Floyd, or the right's response to the attack on the Pelosis?

How peculiar.

Well i was referring to UK society, where I dont think many people support the jan 6 riots. But fair point, I sgould have said, it was at this point I realised that the existing problem of tolerance of political violence, was worse on the political left in the UK than I had realised. Better?

ColdSalads · 17/09/2025 11:23

CantCallItLove · 17/09/2025 11:14

No, not at all. There is just a ridiculousness in claiming 'it's a quirk of the left to want to shut up everyone who disagrees with them' when JD Vance is encouraging mass reporting of people for their comments on social media to their employers and other Republican figures are calling to defund colleges who don't discipline employees for not speaking about Kirk in a way they deem to be correct. I don't think people should celebrate this murder, by the way! But if you complain about the silencing tactics of the left, you should really acknowledge when it happens on such a huge scale on the right as well, otherwise your argument is dishonest.

Sorry, are you being serious?

We've put up with cancel culture from the left for years now. The left taught everyone what to do.

The left started this, now it's butt hurt and it's genuinely heartwarming

ColdSalads · 17/09/2025 11:30

beachcitygirl · 15/09/2025 15:43

I think we can find him a despicable bigot monstrous person, and not “be glad” he was shot in front of his family - and not care that he’s dead and gone.
after all he didn’t believe in empathy.

He was an amazing man, loved by millions, hated by Liberals.

CantCallItLove · 17/09/2025 11:31

ColdSalads · 17/09/2025 11:23

Sorry, are you being serious?

We've put up with cancel culture from the left for years now. The left taught everyone what to do.

The left started this, now it's butt hurt and it's genuinely heartwarming

You can argue that political censorship began with the left, and I could disagree with you (while absolutely accepting that there are truly aspects of cancel culture that have been excessive and anyone can find examples of this - I am not on board with the far end of the political spectrum in either direction).

The dishonesty comes from whining about the censoriousness of the left while pretending it isn't happening - right now! - on the right. It's attributing censorship to the left and just ignoring right wing censorship. Like Hamster's grasp on political violence, it's a total distortion of the truth.

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:31

weearrows · 17/09/2025 11:00

‘He also stated that gay people should be stoned’ (according to @TheClaaaw)

This tells me immediately that you have done virtually no research on him. Stephen King made this same claim a few days ago and was forced to apologise, as did Alastair Campbell. Both acknowledged that Charlie Kirk did not say that. It’s all over social media.
Take a look.

Will you acknowledge that you are wrong on this?

No. I will not, because these “retractions” were a matter of semantics.

His view was very clear in what he actually DID say, a video of which you can watch here (1:15 into the first video on the page):

https://www.advocate.com/politics/charlie-kirk-anti-lgbtq-quotes#rebelltitem2

He quotes Leviticus 18 and how it states that gay men should be stoned to death.

He said: “You love God. So you must love his law. How do you love somebody? You love them by telling them the truth not by confirming or affirming their sin. And it says, by the way Miss Rachel - you might wanna crack open that Bible of yours - in a less referenced part of the same part of scripture is, in Leviticus 18, is that “thou shall lay with another man and thou shall be stoned to death”. Just sayin’! So, Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, “love your neighbour as yourself”, the chapter before affirms God’s God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

So, he’s quite clearly said that if you love God you must love “his law”. And he has declared repeatedly that the “justification” for his views is allegedly that he is following “God’s law” as set out in the Bible, including the Old Testament which he has quoted many, many times to justify his views. Then he quotes a passage in the Bible which states that men who have sex with other men should be stoned to death, and refers to this as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”.

Nobody should have apologised to him because there is no possible and consistent interpretation of these comments other than that he supported gay people being stoned to death as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”: this is was his expressly stated view of the kind of “values” that should exist in an ideal society, which he was campaigning to have inflicted on the rest of society by law so that everyone had to comply with this religious cult.

Continue defending this religious fantastic if you wish. His views were disgusting and his agenda to force them onto the rest of US society was abhorrent and a danger to the basic rights and freedoms of over 50% of the population.

Charlie Kirk DID say stoning gay people was the 'perfect law' — and these other heinous quotes

These are some of his worst comments about LGBTQ+ people made by Charlie Kirk.

https://www.advocate.com/politics/charlie-kirk-anti-lgbtq-quotes#rebelltitem2

ColdSalads · 17/09/2025 11:37

CantCallItLove · 17/09/2025 11:31

You can argue that political censorship began with the left, and I could disagree with you (while absolutely accepting that there are truly aspects of cancel culture that have been excessive and anyone can find examples of this - I am not on board with the far end of the political spectrum in either direction).

The dishonesty comes from whining about the censoriousness of the left while pretending it isn't happening - right now! - on the right. It's attributing censorship to the left and just ignoring right wing censorship. Like Hamster's grasp on political violence, it's a total distortion of the truth.

Oh, it's happening right now and it's joyful. We've put up with so much nonsense for so long, we kept quiet, now the genie is out of the bottle and it's not going back in.

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 11:38

CantCallItLove · 17/09/2025 11:31

You can argue that political censorship began with the left, and I could disagree with you (while absolutely accepting that there are truly aspects of cancel culture that have been excessive and anyone can find examples of this - I am not on board with the far end of the political spectrum in either direction).

The dishonesty comes from whining about the censoriousness of the left while pretending it isn't happening - right now! - on the right. It's attributing censorship to the left and just ignoring right wing censorship. Like Hamster's grasp on political violence, it's a total distortion of the truth.

Are you ok admitting that most political violence in the UK is by Islamists or is that racist?

ColdSalads · 17/09/2025 11:38

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:31

No. I will not, because these “retractions” were a matter of semantics.

His view was very clear in what he actually DID say, a video of which you can watch here (1:15 into the first video on the page):

https://www.advocate.com/politics/charlie-kirk-anti-lgbtq-quotes#rebelltitem2

He quotes Leviticus 18 and how it states that gay men should be stoned to death.

He said: “You love God. So you must love his law. How do you love somebody? You love them by telling them the truth not by confirming or affirming their sin. And it says, by the way Miss Rachel - you might wanna crack open that Bible of yours - in a less referenced part of the same part of scripture is, in Leviticus 18, is that “thou shall lay with another man and thou shall be stoned to death”. Just sayin’! So, Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, “love your neighbour as yourself”, the chapter before affirms God’s God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

So, he’s quite clearly said that if you love God you must love “his law”. And he has declared repeatedly that the “justification” for his views is allegedly that he is following “God’s law” as set out in the Bible, including the Old Testament which he has quoted many, many times to justify his views. Then he quotes a passage in the Bible which states that men who have sex with other men should be stoned to death, and refers to this as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”.

Nobody should have apologised to him because there is no possible and consistent interpretation of these comments other than that he supported gay people being stoned to death as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”: this is was his expressly stated view of the kind of “values” that should exist in an ideal society, which he was campaigning to have inflicted on the rest of society by law so that everyone had to comply with this religious cult.

Continue defending this religious fantastic if you wish. His views were disgusting and his agenda to force them onto the rest of US society was abhorrent and a danger to the basic rights and freedoms of over 50% of the population.

Edited

Out of context nonsense, even Stephen King apologised for say the thought gay people should be stoned.

eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/09/12/stephen-king-charlie-kirk/86123212007/

Underthinker · 17/09/2025 11:43

@TheClaaaw
Yes i am sure you are better at processing and understanding meaning in a text than the 20th best selling author who has ever lived.

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 11:47

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:31

No. I will not, because these “retractions” were a matter of semantics.

His view was very clear in what he actually DID say, a video of which you can watch here (1:15 into the first video on the page):

https://www.advocate.com/politics/charlie-kirk-anti-lgbtq-quotes#rebelltitem2

He quotes Leviticus 18 and how it states that gay men should be stoned to death.

He said: “You love God. So you must love his law. How do you love somebody? You love them by telling them the truth not by confirming or affirming their sin. And it says, by the way Miss Rachel - you might wanna crack open that Bible of yours - in a less referenced part of the same part of scripture is, in Leviticus 18, is that “thou shall lay with another man and thou shall be stoned to death”. Just sayin’! So, Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, “love your neighbour as yourself”, the chapter before affirms God’s God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

So, he’s quite clearly said that if you love God you must love “his law”. And he has declared repeatedly that the “justification” for his views is allegedly that he is following “God’s law” as set out in the Bible, including the Old Testament which he has quoted many, many times to justify his views. Then he quotes a passage in the Bible which states that men who have sex with other men should be stoned to death, and refers to this as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”.

Nobody should have apologised to him because there is no possible and consistent interpretation of these comments other than that he supported gay people being stoned to death as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”: this is was his expressly stated view of the kind of “values” that should exist in an ideal society, which he was campaigning to have inflicted on the rest of society by law so that everyone had to comply with this religious cult.

Continue defending this religious fantastic if you wish. His views were disgusting and his agenda to force them onto the rest of US society was abhorrent and a danger to the basic rights and freedoms of over 50% of the population.

Edited

Your window of conversation is so limited, it's quite basic.

How do you feel that 52% of muslims living in the UK think homosexuality should be banned? Is that OK because of their religion? Or are they hateful bigots and you are prepared to say that out loud too?

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 11:48

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 11:47

Your window of conversation is so limited, it's quite basic.

How do you feel that 52% of muslims living in the UK think homosexuality should be banned? Is that OK because of their religion? Or are they hateful bigots and you are prepared to say that out loud too?

Just to reinforce this - 0%, yes 0%, of muslims in the UK call homosexual acts 'morally acceptable'

What are you doing about this hate and bigotry?

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:48

BananaPeels · 17/09/2025 11:17

But come the next election, if a government has pushed through laws that the electorate don’t want then they can be voted out and the new government can undo them. That’s democracy.

That isn’t what happens. Once authoritarian people convince a gullible populace to vote for their policies then political dissent is silenced through intimidation and free elections become a thing of the past. Why is it that people find this so difficult to understand despite the many documented instances of this occurring throughout history, the many countries where people are living with the consequences of this in the world currently, and the very clear signs of people trying to instigate such a process in America - the so-called “land of the free” - right now?

It is naive in the extreme to believe that it can’t happen here. The UK is not some special case. Of course it can. It is the same pattern that has happened over and over again and has an almost inevitable outcome every time a sufficient proportion of the electorate of a country fall for this kind of rhetoric and are convinced to vote against their own interests.

Some people never learn.

Underthinker · 17/09/2025 11:49

ColdSalads · 17/09/2025 11:21

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-black-women/

Thats the truth of it all, however, it was not "all black women" which is what your insinuating.

He was talking specifically about television presenter Joy Reid.

Yes that's my point.

CantCallItLove · 17/09/2025 11:52

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 11:38

Are you ok admitting that most political violence in the UK is by Islamists or is that racist?

The UK parliament website says 67% of terrorist attacks in the UK since 2018 to 2023 were Islamist extremists, so no I would not say that is racist to say that. I would note that the report points to 22% of attacks in the same period come from the far-right, and the far-right extremists are considered to be a growing and dangerous threat to UK security.

So what that tells me is that the danger is not coming from the left. It tells me Islamist terrorism and far-right terrorism are the two big problems. My concerns about far-right violence in no way diminishes my concern about Islamist extremism.

EasternStandard · 17/09/2025 11:58

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 11:48

That isn’t what happens. Once authoritarian people convince a gullible populace to vote for their policies then political dissent is silenced through intimidation and free elections become a thing of the past. Why is it that people find this so difficult to understand despite the many documented instances of this occurring throughout history, the many countries where people are living with the consequences of this in the world currently, and the very clear signs of people trying to instigate such a process in America - the so-called “land of the free” - right now?

It is naive in the extreme to believe that it can’t happen here. The UK is not some special case. Of course it can. It is the same pattern that has happened over and over again and has an almost inevitable outcome every time a sufficient proportion of the electorate of a country fall for this kind of rhetoric and are convinced to vote against their own interests.

Some people never learn.

You only say ‘gullible’ because it’s not what you would vote for. People feel differently to you and vote accordingly.

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 12:04

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 11:48

Just to reinforce this - 0%, yes 0%, of muslims in the UK call homosexual acts 'morally acceptable'

What are you doing about this hate and bigotry?

That’s why religion should be kept entirely separate from politics. France has this right. It’s dangerous.

The right to observe your own beliefs no matter how incoherent or ridiculous should be preserved but very clearly confined to private life and has no place in politics or law making. People can believe whatever they like in private providing they are doing so with consenting adults and complying with respect for the basic rights and freedoms of others to do likewise, and the laws of the country which protect others such as children (a big problem for children being raised in homes with such parents that democratic states have been unwilling to tackle, leading to many abusive childhoods).

There are inherent contradictions in any view to the contrary, which I outlined in my earlier posts on this thread, and as such they are unworkable and unsustainable and collapse in on themselves. This is a large reason why societies governed by such religious doctrines which almost all contain such discriminatory and irrational “values” are inherently more unstable, less successful, more violent, less happy, less wealthy, and have lower living standards. This is also why Kirk’s false claim to be a proponent of free speech was absurd since he advocated this only for specific people, e.g. not for women. Not even within their own homes. Utter hypocrisy and therefore clearly not a basis for any workable public policy.

Kirk’s views were not much different to those of fundamentalist Islamists. The chosen sky fairy is irrelevant to those who just want to be able to get on with their lives in peace without these nutters imposing their irrational and abusive worldviews onto everyone else based on some book or other from a couple of thousand years ago. Fortunately social structures, science and the rest of humanity who isn’t in the grip of these ideologies has advanced significantly since such books were written so there’s no reason the rest of us should be forced to listen to this nonsense, any more than there should be enforced cycling or skydiving or knitting. If this is how some people wish to spend their spare time then fine, but they have absolutely no business trying to impose it on others.

Kirk knew damn well - but pretending not to - that free speech has to exist within constraints to continue to exist. This is also the case for all other freedoms, which mean you can observe your personal values in your own life but there is only a case for restricting the freedom of others to the extent that it is necessary to do so in order for those freedoms to be able to be maintained for all. Alarm bells should ring when someone starts trying to “other” one group of people in society or claim one should have superior rights to another based on their sex or religion or skin colour because the inevitable outcome if they are successful in their mission will be that everyone’s freedom’s vanish.

This is the entire basis of having a sustainable democratic system or any freedom at all, otherwise it will cease to exist and all freedoms will be lost. This is why all extremist who seek to impose their “values” on others beyond the constraints necessary to ensure that all are protected from infringement of these same rights are a fundamental danger to society, no matter what they want to call themselves or what ideology they try to use to justify their opinions.

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 12:04

CantCallItLove · 17/09/2025 11:52

The UK parliament website says 67% of terrorist attacks in the UK since 2018 to 2023 were Islamist extremists, so no I would not say that is racist to say that. I would note that the report points to 22% of attacks in the same period come from the far-right, and the far-right extremists are considered to be a growing and dangerous threat to UK security.

So what that tells me is that the danger is not coming from the left. It tells me Islamist terrorism and far-right terrorism are the two big problems. My concerns about far-right violence in no way diminishes my concern about Islamist extremism.

Edited

Great, I am glad you can see that is not racist.

But then, we find ourselves back to the place where Charlie Kirk was nowhere near a violent person - he was a person who created a peaceful movement with Christian values.

There is some implication that defending CK means you may agree with his views on homosexuality for example- which weren't as extreme as you are making out - but let's leave that aside. Lots of people like hearing views that aren't the same as theirs, I am one of them - I have no beef with homosexuality at all but still I like to hear other views, it forces me to challenge my own and make sure I am as confident as I can be on my views. It's uncomfortable when you feel like your views might not be right and have to pivot, but that is also part of the fun.

But specifically in CK's murder, it seems that the killer took offence to his views on trans. So what are your views on trans? Do you think TWAW? If not, you too could be suscpetible to this violent hatred if you ever said it in public. At work etc. If you think TWANW, do you say it outloud like he did?

He wasn't killed for 'racist' views, he was killed for 'hateful trans view' so....maybe if you were as brave as him talking truthfully in public that TWANW, then 'it would be expected too'.

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 12:09

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 12:04

That’s why religion should be kept entirely separate from politics. France has this right. It’s dangerous.

The right to observe your own beliefs no matter how incoherent or ridiculous should be preserved but very clearly confined to private life and has no place in politics or law making. People can believe whatever they like in private providing they are doing so with consenting adults and complying with respect for the basic rights and freedoms of others to do likewise, and the laws of the country which protect others such as children (a big problem for children being raised in homes with such parents that democratic states have been unwilling to tackle, leading to many abusive childhoods).

There are inherent contradictions in any view to the contrary, which I outlined in my earlier posts on this thread, and as such they are unworkable and unsustainable and collapse in on themselves. This is a large reason why societies governed by such religious doctrines which almost all contain such discriminatory and irrational “values” are inherently more unstable, less successful, more violent, less happy, less wealthy, and have lower living standards. This is also why Kirk’s false claim to be a proponent of free speech was absurd since he advocated this only for specific people, e.g. not for women. Not even within their own homes. Utter hypocrisy and therefore clearly not a basis for any workable public policy.

Kirk’s views were not much different to those of fundamentalist Islamists. The chosen sky fairy is irrelevant to those who just want to be able to get on with their lives in peace without these nutters imposing their irrational and abusive worldviews onto everyone else based on some book or other from a couple of thousand years ago. Fortunately social structures, science and the rest of humanity who isn’t in the grip of these ideologies has advanced significantly since such books were written so there’s no reason the rest of us should be forced to listen to this nonsense, any more than there should be enforced cycling or skydiving or knitting. If this is how some people wish to spend their spare time then fine, but they have absolutely no business trying to impose it on others.

Kirk knew damn well - but pretending not to - that free speech has to exist within constraints to continue to exist. This is also the case for all other freedoms, which mean you can observe your personal values in your own life but there is only a case for restricting the freedom of others to the extent that it is necessary to do so in order for those freedoms to be able to be maintained for all. Alarm bells should ring when someone starts trying to “other” one group of people in society or claim one should have superior rights to another based on their sex or religion or skin colour because the inevitable outcome if they are successful in their mission will be that everyone’s freedom’s vanish.

This is the entire basis of having a sustainable democratic system or any freedom at all, otherwise it will cease to exist and all freedoms will be lost. This is why all extremist who seek to impose their “values” on others beyond the constraints necessary to ensure that all are protected from infringement of these same rights are a fundamental danger to society, no matter what they want to call themselves or what ideology they try to use to justify their opinions.

Edited

You didn't really address the point about Muslims in Britain all holding the belief that it is morally unacceptable - what are you doing about this?

Also, you said "Kirk’s views were not much different to those of fundamentalist Islamists" - it is not 'Fundamental Islamists' who are against homosexuality, it is all of them (0% think it is morally acceptable)

It is pointless arguing with you about CK's actual views btw because you are determined to not represent them fairly - but for argument's sake, let's say he was totally against homosexuality ( he wasn't) - and so we've established you think he is hateful and a bigot, now what do you think about 100% of muslims living in the UK?

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 12:09

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 11:47

Your window of conversation is so limited, it's quite basic.

How do you feel that 52% of muslims living in the UK think homosexuality should be banned? Is that OK because of their religion? Or are they hateful bigots and you are prepared to say that out loud too?

I see. So now I disproved your false claim that he did in fact very clearly support that gay people should be stoned because this is “God’s law”, you have moved on to more ad hominen insults, calling me “basic”, and whataboutery about muslims every though I was quite clear in my first post on this thread over 15 pages ago that all extremists are just as bad as each other.

TheClaaaw · 17/09/2025 12:15

hamstersarse · 17/09/2025 12:09

You didn't really address the point about Muslims in Britain all holding the belief that it is morally unacceptable - what are you doing about this?

Also, you said "Kirk’s views were not much different to those of fundamentalist Islamists" - it is not 'Fundamental Islamists' who are against homosexuality, it is all of them (0% think it is morally acceptable)

It is pointless arguing with you about CK's actual views btw because you are determined to not represent them fairly - but for argument's sake, let's say he was totally against homosexuality ( he wasn't) - and so we've established you think he is hateful and a bigot, now what do you think about 100% of muslims living in the UK?

What am I doing about this? I call out the views of religious nutters of all descriptions who are trying to impose their views on wider society and stand up for the freedoms of everyone, including women, gay people, people who want to practice a religion in peace but don’t try to impose it on others.

What are you doing about this? You are coming online to defend repeatedly another religious fanatic who is just as bad as the fanatical muslims who you are describing.

I’ve recently been speaking to my MP about various issues and touched upon in my conversations with her the divisive way that religion and such extreme views are seeping into UK politics. Have you? I doubt it, given you’ve actually been defending Kirk who had a great deal in common with the islamist fanatics both in terms of his views (misogynism, racism, homophobia) and his wish to impose these views on the rest of society.

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