Labour Supporters - Do you think it would help if KS was replaced?

[Mrsmunchofmunchington]

I am a life long labour voter. Like many I am incredibly disappointed, in fact I’m devastated by the direction of the current government.

Something needs to change in a pretty radical way or we are opening the door to Deform.

I’m torn between thinking the last thing we need is another revolving door at no 10 but I have lost any confidence that KS is able to lead us out of the mess the tories left us in.

Would it be a good thing to change leaders if this was possible and if so who should it be?

Because there won’t be any work?

Think along the lines of what impact the NI rise had ie this wrt employment for young people + overall unemployment

Because people need the jobs not a reduction of that

Sadly I agree. I do think things like unfair zero hours contracts do need to be cracked down on but if young people are not given a chance because the risk is too high people won't have jobs to be protected in.

I agree with you. Idon't have much faith in the Labour Party anymore.

I was very pleased when Starmer took over from Corbyn because I thought, great, at last a sensible measured leader. But then Starmer started coming out with nonsense about some women having a penis fgs.

One of the other concerns I have about Labour and the Conservatives to a much lesser degree (because they generally look more united), is that they don't appear to have a solid party line that all MPs follow. I know political parties are often a broad church but it shouldn't be so broad that the party looks like a pick and mix of random, often opposing ideas.

I just want sensible, intelligent, measured adults to run the country. I don't expect them to be perfect, but i do expect them to be professional and able to understand how to do their job competently.

I know political parties are often a broad church but it shouldn't be so broad that the party looks like a pick and mix of random, often opposing ideas

Yes Labour has always been made up of two ( or more) factions who hate each other and seemingly have little in common. The broad church has to be there under the fptp system but the reason why the Tories were the most successful political party in the world was because they cared more about being in power than their differences. They have completely fallen apart now because they lost that over Brexit. Labour have always had people who would rather be morally right in opposition than be in power and the Left and Right of the party despise each other.

No. The Left needs to unite around Starmer or hand the next election to a right wing party.

I agree. But they need to unite around the government now rather than play into Reform and the Tory's hands by trying to collapse the government/ replace Starmer with someone more Leftist who will also have to do the sums and make difficult decisions which the Left won't like.

I think that's a fait accompli (although of course, anything can happen in four years). He's lost too many groups of potential voters by his policies. And I fear we are heading for economic collapse and will need someone that actually knows what they are doing in charge to rescue us.

We aren't a left wing country and we didn't vote positively for a left wing government. If the left wing take over Labour then it's Reform in 2029.

This poll always tends to over represent Reform by a few % but even with this, the gap is widening. For Labour to be level pegging with Tories for the first time is damning

No. I think he’s doing an impossible job reasonably well.

Wow. That is extraordinary. There's no way the polls would show this if Keir Starmer was doing in any way a good job. And if they bin him and turn left in this economic situation then that's it really.

You mean this economic situation?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2025/sep/19/uk-government-borrowing-rises-consumer-confidence-slips-reeves-budget-business-live-news

It is the height of irresponsible leadership to appoint a Chancellor who is inadequate and not qualified or up to the job!! She's got the country into this mess!! It is unbelievable! And he sits there waffling on about rubbish, telling people things are great. It's like they are actually living in a parallel universe or don't really like the UK much.

100% this and people need to wake up and realise it. Starmer is a weak leader though, a strong leader would be addressing this.

You can't argue with the immigration and economic figures though, no matter what media you chose to read. And those are the two main issues. And Labour have so far failed on both and have actually made the economy worse. And illegal immigration is up.

Exactly the data is released, Labour try to use it’s the media excuse but the figures are there.

This might help him with a few who gloss over the economics and are wedded to Labour, but rn they’ve lost a huge amount of support.

I always liked Starmer. I thought he would be a steady hand. But he isn't as effective as I would have liked - although he is doing an impossible job without too much drama. I know he has a Chancellor but surely he would have eyeballed and agreed some of the major errors she made at the start? And that blindness worries me.

Andy Burnham is my very favorite. I've always liked him. But, as others say, he's not an MP.

Yvette Cooper? I like her too!

“BIG SIGH”

He’s really disappointing, let’s be honest.

I just can’t bear a repeat of the leader switching that the Tories kept inflicting on us… but if we’re going to do it, maybe get on with it so the new leader has some time to change hearts and minds before the next general election?!

Parroting Reformesque bollocks about “the boats” is really loosing a LOT of traditional labour voters. As is selling arms to Israel.

I’m not feeling particularly patient with him.

Totally agree.

I suspect it's more likely that many of those Labour voters that Keir Starmer is losing are actually going to Reform because of the boats chat. It is the number one concern looking at the polls.

It’s probably losing voters in both directions. Some to Reform, some to the further left.