Ricky Jones Cleared

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Unbelievable (but not unexpected).

www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-15003437/Labour-councillor-cleared-cutting-throats-comment-rally.html

is this still being shown? Sounds very interesting

It was a while back now but yes it was a fascinating and troubling watch. If I find a link I'll share it.

Connelly was charged under section 19(1) of the Public Order Act 1986 under which a person is threatening or abusive and intends to stir up racial hatred. It has a maximum sentence of 7 years.

The prosecution's case was that there was not only intention to incite serious violence but also to directly encourage activity which threatened or endangered life. This placed the offence on the A1 category of the relevant sentencing guidelines, which meant a starting point of three years in prison, which could go up to six years.

I understand that you think you know better than the courts but they don't agree.

But standing up in front of a crowd saying 'We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all.' whilst making a throat slitting motion doesn't directly encourage behaviour which threatens life?

The jury doesn't agree.

Daniel Jupp -

If you are the wife of a Conservative councillor in the UK and post online rhetorically that you don’t care if something bad happens to asylum hotels, you go to prison for 31 months for encouraging violence after a rushed trial where you have been processed as rapidly as possible.

If you are a serving Labour councillor who literally tells people in person to slit the throats of protestors you disagree with, you are not guilty and after your case has been delayed until everyone hopefully forgets about it, you are free to go.

Two tier policing, two tier sentencing, two tier sick, depraved injustice.

My country is a shithole. A tyrannical, failed, joke of a nation that pisses all over the freedom of its own, and would be considered a horrifying vision of Hell by any of the better generations that built it.

The contrast of the Lucy Connolly and Ricky Jones cases could not make it any clearer. Our judges and police enforce a leftist tyranny where those aligned with or championed by Labour can call for murder, while those who oppose leftwing policies online have no freedom of speech at all even if their language is clearly non literal.

Connolly said ‘I do not care if…’.

Jones said ‘slit their throats’.

But Connolly rots in prison and Jones walks free.

Jones was filmed telling people to murder other people. A flat out, unambiguous instruction to kill.

No sane person could look at the contrast of these statements and these judgements without realising there is no justice in the UK and without realising that the basic principle of equal justice before the law is completely dead here.

There wasn’t a trial for Lucy Connolly so we can’t say what a jury would determine in court.

The jury saw a clip of what he said beforehand. He wasn't referring to the protesters.

My country is a shithole. A tyrannical, failed, joke of a nation that pisses all over the freedom of its own, and would be considered a horrifying vision of Hell by any of the better generations that built it.

Says the person who posted an image taken from a far-right fascist....

The better generations that built it fought a war to stop fascists and nazi's. You won't get much sympathy from them for that view.

The clip should be released so that people can see it. Though I guess it wouldn't make much difference. Some on MN are dying to see a bit of trouble erupt over this, especially as it is a warm weekend. Same on X.

Labour have walked into this one. Two people with similar actions, two starkly different outcomes.

Yes I read that. It has been said he was referring to NF who had put up posters with hidden razor blades on trains. But this speech was at a counter protest rally at a time of high tension and regardless of his intended targets he was inciting violence.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I do wonder if the charge was a mistake. He might have been found guilty of a lesser charge.

Two people. Two completely different pleas. Two completely different legal processes. Two completely different outcomes.

If LC had taken her chances with a jury, she might have had a not guilty verdict too, like the other chap mentioned (I think on another thread).

Not just the ones on the left, most men get away with all manner of heinous shit😡

Oh yes I agree. The CPS authorised 1 charge against him. I'm not a lawyer but was this the only/best option?

And now we have idiots on X inciting people to slit throats as they believe it is not a crime.

I'm not sure. Encouraging GBH or something similar? I wouldn't have lost any sleep if he'd been found guilty of something along those lines. I also hope he gets kicked out of the Labour party. I suspect he'll challenge it if they do.

I think tbh the Shadow Home Secretary has come out of this looking like a complete and utter idiot with his ridiculous tweet.

Why? Were they blind and deaf?

I assume juries are privy to information the general public aren't, therefore they make decisions based on that.

Yes but what Jones said was there for all to see . What other evidence can there be ? He said it on camera.
He obviously had a sympathetic jury

I’ve no idea why Connelly was remanded straight to jail though even after her guilty plea.. was Jones realised after two days or something?

I have no idea what other evidence was presented. He was charged with encouraging violence but the crowd weren't exactly aggressive, perhaps he didn't mean for what he said to be taken seriously. He obviously shouldn't have said it but no one actually acted on it.

I can't understand how anyone cannot be furious at this verdict. Britain used to have a reputation for fairness. It's double standards to my mind. I care.not what the jury may or may not have seen. I know what I saw and heard. He's guilty as hell. I'm not surprised people are angry at the outcome.