Ban the burka?

[TalkToTheHand123]

Question asked in the commons today. Should it be banned?

So no one should be stopped from going to work in a bikini if they want to?

No

totally disingenuous to pretend that some Islamic approaches arent horrific for women’s rights

I've never implied anything else, so I've genuinely no idea why you quoted my post and are suggesting I have.

Not even the face covering, it's the head covering! Wow very extreme.

You’re not a feminist? You don’t believe that women and men deserve the same rights and opportunities?

Yes, the UK which Islam has been an inherent part of for nigh on a century, and a peripheral part of for centuries before that.

The arrival of Islam in the UK is not a recent phenomenon.

How much social cohesion would be achieved by forcing a section of society to forsake its religious and cultural norms? It would be a recipe for unrest.

It's the face covering which is new, they don't press for it as much in Muslim countries where they could wear it freely. Yet the UK...

Very much so. Because if there was a vote, you can be sure 80% would vote against any face covering in public.

It's covering your face in public, including balaclavs by boys in public.

Just don't do it, not needed.

You worry about social unrest as Muslims may be unhappy?
What about British being unhappy with the burka?
Maybe worry about the British having...unrest.

Also that's the issue. You expect all these new "cultures traditions religiond sexuality they/them ferbies to come along and people to shut up and accept them. Yet you can't accept other people wanting a different society.

You do realise that being British, and being Muslim are not mutually exclusive?

Incorrect.

True but the religious dress is a very recent phenomenon. I read that even in the ME it was practically unheard of 100 years ago. It is only the last 50 or so years that is has become the cultural norm. Just look up the national dress of Iran or Afghanistan- all very colourful with rich fabrics and does not cover head to toe. Women used to be celebrated for their beauty in these countries until the 2nd half of the 20th century

Covering one’s hair and covering the face are two different things.

Many do not choose to wear it.

Most British people don’t care about women wearing burkas. I certainly don’t. This thread is a very nasty little nest of Little Englanders pretending they care about women’s rights.

Being in England and British people speaking what they want for their own country....

Well that's a compelling counter-argument, you've convinced me 😐

Perhaps other people have different lives than you and care about other things? Perhaps you are uncultured and live in a bubble. Perhaps you don't understand social trends or have reached radicalization. Or indeed respect others opinions

Do you live here? I've lived and in South, North, East, and West. London as a whole is very mixed. There are some microcosms with more of one ethnicity than another, but a) other people definitely do still live in these areas and often it's a fairly even blend. c) that's fairly natural as people moving somewhere will look for people and things that they are familiar with. That's why you get British immigrant community in Spain for example.
I worked in a role with heavy travel and I could be in Ladbroke Grove where theres a high Carribbean and Portuguese population, Notting Hill with a significant American and French community, and Shepherd's Bush with a a variety of everything, within the same short journey. I can walk around the corner and be somewhere completely different entirely. It's interesting learning people's stories.

Yes I live in bethnal green

Wow, try reading what you’ve just written. The irony.

bikinis are fine for work they aren't oppressive and are free choice, although unless working as a life guard I've never experienced many people wearing them to work. May be we could start a trend?

The other item hides identity, restrict freedom and isn't from a place of free choice and makes women suffer for men's behavior.

Yes, ban it from public places. The sooner the better.