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Starmer told to accept Trump ‘free speech’ agenda

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Circularmadness · 16/04/2025 17:12

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-jd-vance-trade-deal-free-speech-b2733806.html

outrageous exploitative overreach by Trumps regime to try and dictate how the Uk handles free speech. How dare he, I hope Starmer holds firm.
Trumps administration, the very same who cancel press access if they refuse to use the approved language of the regime ( Gulf of Mexico). This would take the UK to a very dark place.

Starmer told to accept Trump ‘free speech’ agenda
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NeverReadUlysses · 19/04/2025 12:45

StandFirm · 19/04/2025 12:37

But he wants to. That's the outrageous thing about this regime. They want us to be in their orbit and abide by their ideology like the USSR controlled Poland, Czechoslovakia and others back in the day.
True vassals is what they want.
Guess who is in line for Governor? Lined up for 2029? Reform 'Sovereignty is all' is ironically in bed with them but oh no, the biggest threat to the UK is the only bloc that is still trying to uphold liberal democratic values! And OF COURSE the first thing Reform will do is take us out of the ECHR - wonder why?? Anyone fancy a trip to El Salvador?

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Fortunately Reform aren’t going to be able to form a government. They’re down from five MPs to four. Starmer is a silent assassin who says very little but acts decisively. Vance likes shooting his mouth off and making threats. Starmer won’t join in a war of words with Vance. He might say one cryptic sentence and that’s all. No shouting matches. I don’t trust him because I don’t know what he’s going to do next, but it won’t involve threats.

StandFirm · 19/04/2025 12:47

NeverReadUlysses · 19/04/2025 12:45

Fortunately Reform aren’t going to be able to form a government. They’re down from five MPs to four. Starmer is a silent assassin who says very little but acts decisively. Vance likes shooting his mouth off and making threats. Starmer won’t join in a war of words with Vance. He might say one cryptic sentence and that’s all. No shouting matches. I don’t trust him because I don’t know what he’s going to do next, but it won’t involve threats.

I really hope you're right!
I think we should not underestimate them though - in this day and age, all bets are off...

StandFirm · 19/04/2025 12:50

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 16/04/2025 17:40

Im on the look out for chlorine washed chicken as part of these trade talks. Food must be labelled clearly so the consumer can choose.
Agree id align with Europe than America. Stupid Brexit.

Yes. I have name changed a few times over the years but I remember the Brexit threads. No one can deny that by and large, the predictions came true in terms of reduced trade, GDP and no improvement in public services. Brexit is to sovereignty and prosperity what free speech is to Trump.

NeverReadUlysses · 19/04/2025 12:52

StandFirm · 19/04/2025 12:47

I really hope you're right!
I think we should not underestimate them though - in this day and age, all bets are off...

I agree - we need to ditch the special relationship.

StandFirm · 19/04/2025 12:54

NeverReadUlysses · 19/04/2025 12:52

I agree - we need to ditch the special relationship.

Indeed, any relationship that is blatantly one-sided is not worth having.

And I'm saying that as someone who got 'accused' of being American on my own thread a couple of days ago!

Circularmadness · 19/04/2025 19:02

Unfortunately I agree, I think we should be very wary of writing them off. Especially when they have the backing and might of the Russian propaganda psychological warfare bot farms extending their tentacles all over the web and social media.

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Circularmadness · 19/04/2025 19:04

Circularmadness · 19/04/2025 19:02

Unfortunately I agree, I think we should be very wary of writing them off. Especially when they have the backing and might of the Russian propaganda psychological warfare bot farms extending their tentacles all over the web and social media.

Sorry meant this in response to Reform post!

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Circularmadness · 19/04/2025 20:19

StandFirm · 19/04/2025 19:13

Carole Cadwalladr - who investigated Cambridge Analytica and foreign influence in the Brexit campaign- is calling out the Trump regime for what it is:
https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3ln6n75dah222

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Thank goodness for her voice 👏🏻🤩

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