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soundsys · 2025-04-02T20:36:15+00:00

WTF is happening? It’s like some bizarre performance art piece. He’s holding up signs and shouting and throwing out hats it’s just 🤯

Nutmuncher · 03/04/2025 08:13

100PercentFaithful · 02/04/2025 22:02

I must admit I really quite enjoy him - he’s SO awful it’s like an entertainment show: some kind of parody.
Even his name - President Fart - is funny.
His appearance is funny: his tiny pouty mouth; his comb-over; his orange skin and his beady eyes.
His speeches are so bizarre and rambling they are a joy to listen to. Like some kind of gift for Have I Got News For You jokes.

I have to agree. A compelling watch if it wasn’t for the Black Mirror-esque simultaneous crashing of the global economy in the background.

lawpluslaw · 03/04/2025 08:14

thepariscrimefiles · 03/04/2025 07:25

I don't know what we're all worried about. He's an economic genius! He's definitely got his finger on the pulse:

Trump: "An old fashioned term that we use -- groceries. I used it on the campaign. It's such an old fashioned term, but a beautiful term. Groceries. It says a bag with different things in it."

Perhaps he considers it an old fashioned term because he knows that shortly about half of Americans will no longer be able to afford to buy them?

Remember, in the time before tariffs, Mabel? When we used to be able to buy a bag with different things in it? We called them milk and bread. Was there a beautiful term for it?

Imbusytodaysorry · 03/04/2025 08:15

Elliania · 03/04/2025 00:03

Well Australia banned US beef over Mad Cow Disease (which their beef doesn't have) and there's also some sort of chemical/additive in US beef (I forget the name, I read it earlier) that's banned in multiple countries. Also their chicken gets washed in chlorine due to sub par hygiene procedures. So that's mainly why no-one buys it.

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Reading this makes me feel sick enough. Why would we want this stuff also why would we bring it from America ?
Id rather starve or I’d turn vegetarian

Cornettoninja · 03/04/2025 08:16

KnewYearKnewMe · 03/04/2025 04:08

It’s not even in alphabetical or ascending/descending order.. is it? Is it in any at all?

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I’m not sure I’m not breeching an etiquette of some sort but this did make me laugh

Is anyone watching this Trump car crash?

lawpluslaw · 03/04/2025 08:18

Dolphinnoises · 03/04/2025 08:02

What are you talking about? If you shop in America you literally have the sales tax added on so your bill is always higher than you think it is. VAT is just our term for a sales tax.

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Sales tax is determined by individual state in the US, so it's not a federal tax in the same way as VAT. Rates range between about 3 and 7%, and some states allow local taxes to be added, i.e. for a hotel room in NYC, you'll pay New York State taxes and then a local tax charge.

It's probably too complicated for him to understand.

Cornettoninja · 03/04/2025 08:18

Dolphinnoises · 03/04/2025 08:02

What are you talking about? If you shop in America you literally have the sales tax added on so your bill is always higher than you think it is. VAT is just our term for a sales tax.

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I know this, you know this… I’m not sure the maga crowd or Trump know this. Or rather he definitely does but he can market this extra added tax better than he can just slapping on a new nationwide sales tax.

GCAcademic · 03/04/2025 08:31

Anniegetyourgun · 03/04/2025 00:00

How that twerp can believe that VAT is a tariff defies logic. How does it discriminate against the US? Their products are taxed in exactly the same way as those from any other source, including those produced here. You'd think being the most powerful etc etc he'd have economists and financial advisers who could explain this stuff, but apparently not.

The victim mentality in the Right is strong. People think that this is a preserve of the Left, but the Right has its own identity politics with all of the same characteristics (claims of being discriminated against, victimhood, etc). as the Left wing version.

I imagine that Trump (or certainly his cronies) does understand that VAT is not a tariff, but the act of grotesque theatre we've just witnessed is about pulling the wool over the American population's eyes - not hard to do given the general level of education, toxic patriotism, and ignorance of the world outside their own borders.

napody · 03/04/2025 08:36

I too switched over and missed the board! Does anyone remember Heckles' 'Big Book of Grievances' in Friends?!

I know it's not funny, but I just can't get my head around watching him without laughing. If he applied for a job in your shop or bar, or knocked on your door to clean your windows you'd know he wouldn't manage it. How on earth is he there?!

napody · 03/04/2025 08:39

Cornettoninja · 03/04/2025 08:18

I know this, you know this… I’m not sure the maga crowd or Trump know this. Or rather he definitely does but he can market this extra added tax better than he can just slapping on a new nationwide sales tax.

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Is there no way of getting this across to his supporters? In this age of global connectivity. He's pissed Musk and Murdoch off now and they own the world's media... surely they can get the message across?!

US CITIZENS: YOU'VE BEEN STUNG WITH A NEW SALES TAX.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2025 08:53

The warnings were there before the election, if only these headlines were published then

OuchyEars · 03/04/2025 08:56

AzurePanda · 02/04/2025 22:21

The UK charges VAT on American imports. Obviously this is because the UK charges VAT on all goods and services but historically the US hasn’t applied an equivalent tax.

They have "sales tax" instead which does the same job. It's just sneakier because you don't know how much it is till you get to the cashier.

Whooowhooohoo · 03/04/2025 08:56

BonnieBug · 03/04/2025 06:02

Things that didn't happen......

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Next time I’ll invite you to mine & you can meet my neighbors and, if the weather is nice, you can listen to them talking about the news.
Just because you don’t like what’s being said … doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

lawpluslaw · 03/04/2025 08:58

OuchyEars · 03/04/2025 08:56

They have "sales tax" instead which does the same job. It's just sneakier because you don't know how much it is till you get to the cashier.

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Yes, but repeating this, because it's not equivalent to VAT, so it's probably too much information for Trump to retain.

Sales tax is determined by individual state in the US, so it's not a federal tax in the same way as VAT. Rates range between about 3 and 7%, and some states allow local taxes to be added, i.e. for a hotel room in NYC, you'll pay New York State taxes and then a local tax charge.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2025 09:02

Where Trumps loyalties lie

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/trump-tariffs-russia-ukraine-ceasefire

Trump's tariffs list is missing one big country: Russia

Whooowhooohoo · 03/04/2025 09:04

OuchyEars · 03/04/2025 08:56

They have "sales tax" instead which does the same job. It's just sneakier because you don't know how much it is till you get to the cashier.

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And sales tax varies by state, dime with an added city tax …many states the sales tax is low or 0%. Highest are 7 or 8 % … no state or city has anything near 20%

Not sneaky & allows confined to know price of product

AzurePanda · 03/04/2025 09:05

Yes sales tax is not the same as VAT, hence the 10% he is levying against the 22% effective rate that VAT is levied on American imports. It may well be applied to all imports but as Trump says he only cares about what hits the US, not anybody else!

Barney16 · 03/04/2025 09:16

Unfortunately I ordered a 24 pack of diet coke in my online shop before we were tariffed. Next order, I'm getting Barrs. May even add in a cream soda multi pack with which to toast the end of the world. On the plus side Barrs is cheaper so I will use the £2 I'm saving for a stamp for my letter to the king asking that he ghosts the Donald.

lawpluslaw · 03/04/2025 09:17

https://bsky.app/profile/katie0martin.ft.com/post/3llvg6zxpus2r

Katie Martin (@katie0martin.ft.com)

Your tariff rate is your star sign divided by the number of boys you've kissed, multiplied by one

https://bsky.app/profile/katie0martin.ft.com/post/3llvg6zxpus2r

ConcernedOfClapham · 03/04/2025 09:18

MarchionessVonSausage · 03/04/2025 06:13

I'm very confused about exports from Heard & McDonald islands.

The Guardian is reporting "The export figures from Heard Island and McDonald Islands are even more perplexing. The territory does have a fishery but no buildings or human habitation whatsoever.

Despite this, according to export data from the World Bank, the US imported US$1.4m (A$2.23m) of products from Heard Island and McDonald Islands in 2022, nearly all of which was “machinery and electrical” imports. It was not immediately clear what those goods were.

In the five years prior, imports from Heard Island and McDonald Islands ranged from US$15,000 (A$24,000) to US$325,000 (A$518,000) per year.
The White House, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and the Australian Antarctic Division were contacted for comment."

How are freaking penguins running a fishery & exporting machinery?

With commendable efficiency that puts humans to shame, by the looks of it.

ConcernedOfClapham · 03/04/2025 09:20

TroysMammy · 03/04/2025 07:01

Was there a Clap-o-meter or is that 1970s?

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60s, when the free love got out of hand

Hoppinggreen · 03/04/2025 09:46

MarchionessVonSausage · 03/04/2025 06:13

I'm very confused about exports from Heard & McDonald islands.

The Guardian is reporting "The export figures from Heard Island and McDonald Islands are even more perplexing. The territory does have a fishery but no buildings or human habitation whatsoever.

Despite this, according to export data from the World Bank, the US imported US$1.4m (A$2.23m) of products from Heard Island and McDonald Islands in 2022, nearly all of which was “machinery and electrical” imports. It was not immediately clear what those goods were.

In the five years prior, imports from Heard Island and McDonald Islands ranged from US$15,000 (A$24,000) to US$325,000 (A$518,000) per year.
The White House, the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and the Australian Antarctic Division were contacted for comment."

How are freaking penguins running a fishery & exporting machinery?

Have you not seen Madagascar?

ApplesForMe · 03/04/2025 09:50

Apparently if you ask Chatgbt to calculate these tariffs for you, it comes up with the same numbers as the trump administration did. Good God, not the finest minds in economic science here

AzurePanda · 03/04/2025 09:52

@ApplesForMe is Chatgbt wrong about everything?

onedogatoddlerandababy · 03/04/2025 09:52

OonaStubbs · 03/04/2025 00:29

The American iPhone will be more expensive because the American workers will expect decent wages. Surely it's a good thing for workers who manufacture phones to be paid decent wages? They can then spend their wages in the American economy to create more jobs.

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Well yes, obviously paying people a decent wage is good. However, if no consumers can afford these products, or they’re so overpriced in comparison to foreign goods, then their employment isn’t lasting long

PreFabBroadBean · 03/04/2025 09:53

Are you sure it's not Chatgbt plagiarising Trump's fine mind in the downward spiral of Western civilization?