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Reform - we knew it, right?

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nearlylovemyusername · 24/02/2025 16:11

Ex-leader of Reform in Wales accused of taking bribes for pro-Russia messages

" The former leader of Reform UK in Wales appeared in court on Monday accused of accepting bribes in exchange for making statements in the European parliament that would benefit Russia.
Nathan Gill is facing eight counts of bribery and one of conspiracy to commit bribery. The court heard he allegedly received money from former Ukrainian politician Oleg Voloshyn to make statements about events in the country that were supportive of Russia’s narrative, according to the Press Association.
His comments in the European parliament and in articles written for news outlets were “supportive of a particular narrative” that would “benefit Russia regarding events in Ukraine”, the court heard. His media appearances included 112 Ukraine, a pro-Russian channel that was banned by Ukraine in 2021."

I don't understand why it's not on front pages of all accessible news outlets, esp given developments in US.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 25/02/2025 17:38

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 25/02/2025 17:16

Realistically, what else have Reform supporters got to offer?

I think many Reform voters have begun to reconsider their support in the last few days as Farage reveals himself.

Or should that be, hides himself away.😶‍🌫️

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 18:12

Well a lot of Reform voters have been put off by the fact a very cosy donor and future leader of NF’s is Muslim. Which is of course racist. But it goes to show Mr Farage’s bigotry/‘scruples’ go out the window when there is £££ involved

Bromptotoo · 25/02/2025 18:44

Kendodd · 25/02/2025 17:26

Doesn't matter how many undersea cables Russian submarines cut, or people they poison in Salisbury. Reform voters know the real danger to the UK is the EU wanting to ban agrochemicals that kill bees.

Give over....

GlobeTrotter2000 · 25/02/2025 18:54

@Kendodd

Most people know what day it is and the date, but newspapers print it in the front page every day.

As for pesticides that are dangerous to pollinators, look on 21 Dec 2024 www.gov.uk. A complete ban is moving forward.

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/02/2025 19:33

I think a lot are being put off as they see what Putin is doing in the USA and don't want that here @Wildflowers99.😱

PandoraSox · 25/02/2025 20:05

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Are you going to provide a shred of evidence for this claim about Labour members/MPs? I am guessing not.

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 20:25

PandoraSox · 25/02/2025 20:05

Are you going to provide a shred of evidence for this claim about Labour members/MPs? I am guessing not.

I note you didn’t say Tory 😂

Labour are seriously shady. Antisemitic, sexist, and I hold them responsible for the grooming gangs cover up.

Echobelly · 25/02/2025 20:26

Party founded by man who distabilised Britain has people in it paid off by Russia shocker!

PandoraSox · 25/02/2025 21:30

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 20:25

I note you didn’t say Tory 😂

Labour are seriously shady. Antisemitic, sexist, and I hold them responsible for the grooming gangs cover up.

I think you need to read the post I quoted, which specified Labour.

Edited as not worth it.

crackofdoom · 25/02/2025 21:31

Wildflowers99 · 24/02/2025 16:13

Good grief.

Why worry about enemies abroad when we have so many at home at the moment? Including half the public and their self absorption in conspiracy theories/Truth Social.

Sounds like this person is an enemy at home...

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:31

PandoraSox · 25/02/2025 21:30

I think you need to read the post I quoted, which specified Labour.

Edited as not worth it.

Edited

Nice try.

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:32

crackofdoom · 25/02/2025 21:31

Sounds like this person is an enemy at home...

There are lots of them, on the far left and far right. It’s a terrifying time for us in the middle.

PandoraSox · 25/02/2025 21:34

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:32

There are lots of them, on the far left and far right. It’s a terrifying time for us in the middle.

The middle being the Tories under Badenoch? 🤣

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:38

PandoraSox · 25/02/2025 21:34

The middle being the Tories under Badenoch? 🤣

No, the middle being Starmer I suppose.

PandoraSox · 25/02/2025 21:39

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:38

No, the middle being Starmer I suppose.

Yes he is a centrist. So we agree on something.

crackofdoom · 25/02/2025 21:42

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:32

There are lots of them, on the far left and far right. It’s a terrifying time for us in the middle.

No. On the far right. Nice try with your whataboutery, but nope. I am what you'd call the "far left", and we spend all our time reading books about economics and wringing our hands about biodiversity decline and insufficient social housing. Not taking backhanders from foreign dictators to destabilise our democracy 🙄

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:43

crackofdoom · 25/02/2025 21:42

No. On the far right. Nice try with your whataboutery, but nope. I am what you'd call the "far left", and we spend all our time reading books about economics and wringing our hands about biodiversity decline and insufficient social housing. Not taking backhanders from foreign dictators to destabilise our democracy 🙄

Well, you do a great job of destabilising democracy with Gaza.

crackofdoom · 25/02/2025 21:45

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:43

Well, you do a great job of destabilising democracy with Gaza.

What, you think British lefties are bombing Gaza?! 😆 Whose democracy are we destabilising in regards to Gaza, precisely?!

Wildflowers99 · 25/02/2025 21:48

crackofdoom · 25/02/2025 21:45

What, you think British lefties are bombing Gaza?! 😆 Whose democracy are we destabilising in regards to Gaza, precisely?!

No. By and large the pro Palestinian protesters are left or far left.

rockstarshoes · 25/02/2025 22:05

How can you compare someone's democratic right to protest with the Leader of a political party taking bribes from Russia! 🤔

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/02/2025 22:14

Are you really comparing UK citizens' legal right to protest with an elected official taking bribes to destabilise Britain and Europe @Wildflowers99?

WTAF?🤯🤯🤯

Kendodd · 26/02/2025 07:08

Has anyone mentioned Johnson putting the son of one of Putin's inner circle in the HoL (against security service advice) after receiving massive donations to the Tory party yet?
That passed with barely a murmur as well. Can you imagine if Corbyn had done that!

TheNuthatch · 26/02/2025 07:38

Kendodd · 26/02/2025 07:08

Has anyone mentioned Johnson putting the son of one of Putin's inner circle in the HoL (against security service advice) after receiving massive donations to the Tory party yet?
That passed with barely a murmur as well. Can you imagine if Corbyn had done that!

I think the accusations of Johnson being some kind of Putin puppet need to stop. He may have made some mistakes in the past, but his unwavering support for Ukraine continues to this day. He was one of the first to step forward and support Ukraine.

travellinglighter · 26/02/2025 08:15

TheNuthatch · 26/02/2025 07:38

I think the accusations of Johnson being some kind of Putin puppet need to stop. He may have made some mistakes in the past, but his unwavering support for Ukraine continues to this day. He was one of the first to step forward and support Ukraine.

That’s got be really annoying for them, they invest all that time and money in bojo and he stabs them in the back.

That’s the Boris we know and despise.

nearlylovemyusername · 26/02/2025 08:52

TheNuthatch · 26/02/2025 07:38

I think the accusations of Johnson being some kind of Putin puppet need to stop. He may have made some mistakes in the past, but his unwavering support for Ukraine continues to this day. He was one of the first to step forward and support Ukraine.

Absolutely!

BoJo is sooo far from perfect, but he's very much not a putin's muppet.

Dominic Cummings has very strong Russian links and ideologically aligned with Putin, hence his role in Brexit.

But Boris was the strongest ally of Ukraine and there are some, admittedly conspiracy, theories that Putin played a very significant role in his downfall.

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