Did Elon Musk's son mouth to Trump to "STFU", & is Musk using his son as a shield?

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Yesterday's press conference was very strange, Musk looked exhausted, threatened and stressed, unprofessional and out of his depth. I found it strange that his young son was with him, and found it odd that Musk placed the little boy on his shoulders mid press conference.

Why subject the little boy to an adult press conference? It's clearly a stressful, adult environment. Is the child an emotional support or shield for Musk?

I think Elon is starting to crack, and the son is being used as an emotional support person for the fragile parent.

Did the little boy, mouth to Trump, "Shut the fuck up"? If he did, surely Trump will start putting guardrails in place with Musk.

Who is the other parent of that child, why is he being paraded about, and placed in stressful situations, which are inappropriate for a child?

Read it again. Every single thing I have said is either a proven fact, or clearly stated to be a rumour, like her removing the children from Japan. I don't know for sure that happened - what is certain is that they were living in Texas, then she took two of the children to California and soon afterwards he filed for custody in Texas. And she responded by ordering the children would not be able to be removed from California whilst the court case was ongoing. That is very easy to verify as it is all in public court filings.

You think my conclusion that Musk probably didn't take his son (who he's been almost inseparable from since he was born) to California as he didn't want him to be taken from him is "giving him the benefit of the doubt and [my] most generous interpretation"? You think, despite many accounts that he is utterly devoted to the child, that it's much more likely that bad man Musk doesn't actually care about him at all, he only refused to take him to California to annoy his ex - the poor innocent mother who we absolutely do know from court filings did choose to leave that child with him? Who in her own interview stated that she didn't want the kid to call her 'mom' as she didn't feel like his mother, and that she wanted him to call her 'Claire' instead? Again, very easily provable - just need to google (and be open-minded enough to accept something that goes against what you've already decided must be true...)

The woman I called odd is someone I know nothing about - you brought up some random crap about an unnamed 'conservative influencer' that I hadn't heard about (and as you can probably tell, if I've not heard about it it must be a pretty niche rumour!), and you're complaining I'm being unreasonable for not sticking for proven facts and giving people the benefit of the doubt?! 😂😂😂

Ok, I actually thought you wanted to know the truth about some of the stuff that was said about him. But you're clearly prepared to believe absolutely anything at all, however implausible, if it fits with your decision that 'Elon Musk bad'. And discount anything, even publicly available court documents and statements from his exes, if it contradicts that position. I'm genuinely embarrassed for you.

He’s a multi billionaire. He can do what he likes. wtf is this teaching that kid? Fucking about in the Oval Office at a press briefing. The world’s gone mad

Musk won Trump the election by using X /Twitter as a false information propaganda machine and influencing voters. He also donated 200 oddmillion to his campaign fund.

He also influenced trump and mekania to set up their owncryptocoins which soared in value at the inauguration time. Trump owns the company they are traded on. The Trumps made millions from the trading of their crypto coins.

It's not about him having something on Trump, it's about him having the money to ruin Trump if he turns against him. He used it for Trump this time, and is continuing to use it to keep Republican senators and congresspeople in line - threatening to fund candidates to primary them if they don't vote in Trump's cabinet nominee's, for example. But if he were to turn on Trump, he could destroy him.

Does anyone else think it's weird that he's zeroed in on only one (of his many) children in such a weirdly intense way?

Is there a link to this press conference?
@MsAmerica how do you know trump has no dialogue with his dc when young?

@callmej thanks for the brilliant posts.
It's very clear you're just speaking generally and in a factual way and are not a massive fan.
It's absurd that people can't just chat about this stuff without triggering people into attack because you're a fan.
It's been really interesting thanks.

@HotTake thanks for the those links I found it astonishing really, a teeny boy speaking to trump like that 😂🤣.hilarious.

I think thought Musk would help him get elected and then go along with all of Trump's idiocy like all the other sycophants he collects around him. He wasn't expecting Musk's ego to be as massive as his. I think they'll fall out.

I’m not sure it’s brilliant, or even “factual”. Not everything you read on the internet is fact. She also admits much of it is “rumour”

i’s be suspicious that from what pp says everybody seems to speak positively about EM. From employees to everyone he’s ever met. He’s reached the grand heights of business and become a billionaire without upsetting anyone, ever? Steve Jobs wasn’t perfect and there are many people who will
say so. I wonder if he’s the type of person to surround himself with yes men, and anyone not falling in line is binned.

like I said, I have read much of the same information this poster has, only I drew a different conclusion from the information.

confirmation bias is a thing. Some people may look at the information from a negative start, others positive.

i suspect the truth is somewhere between. He’s clearly a flawed man- but he also has a lot of power and that will influence what people say about him.

i don’t think someone in EM’s position who says the things he does and does the things he does can be a good man with people’s best interest at heart.

that’s my opinion. Callmej seems to have a different one, but is presenting it as “facts” when it’s public information from the internet. None of us can know the facts unless we know him well.

interestingly the “resistance” appears to be the national parks service. Apparently the National Parks staff have been let go in droves and some of them are speaking up.

I don't believe I said anything about "'dialogue."

Trump was not an involved father when his children were young. He has said so himself. His own father was dreadful, so it's not surprising.

I have heard more than once that the child is literally a shield for Musk he assumes lunatics wouldn't shoot him if they had to get past a child which is beyond sick using a child like that and anyway shooters don't seem to discriminate between adult and child in the US.

The prevailing rumor in the US is apparently that Musk takes a child everywhere because he's afraid of physical violence against himself and thinks the possibility of harming an innocent child would dissuade a would-be attacker - so yeah, literally a shield. Of course, that's speculation.

The little boy didn't mouth "STFU", but rather, "That's my Dad's chair."

Little x wiped his bogeys on the resolute? 😂😂😂

I’m grateful I missed seeing that bit. Between X seeming to tell Trump he wasn’t the President and to shush up, (and definitely looking bored out of his brain) and Trump looking all hangdog, I couldn’t concentrate on what Musk was saying past his admission he’s going to get things wrong but will correct them on Twitter. He got something wrong the other day. He overestimated some waste. He was only out by US $7.892 billion

One of Musk's baby mothers is trying to attract his attention about a "medical emergency" with one of their kids

https://bsky.app/profile/lowrhoufo.bsky.social/post/3linbjtwc322e

I've never followed anything Musk does so for all I know he usually behaves erratically but the chainsaw incident caught my eye. He appears to be losing his grip on reality so much so he's making Trump look level headed.

Maybe that's why Trump keeps him close, as a distraction?

I think I mentioned earlier in the thread that I saw two psychologists discussing him and both concluded that he's hypomanic and his behaviour certainly seems to be bearing out that hypothesis. And then there's the ketamine use. All personal dislike of him aside, he's certainly not radiating a sense of calm stability.

He is, however, pouring money in to defeat Trump's critics, so I guess that's all that matters.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-court-b2701097.html

True, but do you really think that Musk worries much about that kind of thing?

Okay, that made me laugh - but I don't think anything can make Trump seem level-headed.
On the contrary, Trump is so lawless that he makes Nixon look good - Richard Nixon having been widely considered the most criminal president up until now.

Musk is shooting his mouth off about the UK government and congratulating the AfD in Germany, but for all his apparent drug riddled demeanor, he's never so far been high enough to slag off Putin, or doing business in China under Xi, or even India so far as I can tell.

That's because they can and will shut down his business in those countries overnight. So, he mad, but not THAT mad

On the contrary, Trump is so lawless that he makes Nixon look good - Richard Nixon having been widely considered the most criminal president up until now.

I was trying to explain Richard Nixon to my kids - we’d been watching Futurama with President Nixon’s head-in-a-jar - but they struggled to understand why he was impeached for lying when, as my son put it, “Trump lies every time he speaks”. It’s amazing how incompetent past-presidents don’t seem so bad now. I almost miss George W. Bush.

I know. Watergate almost seems quite cute now.

For anyone who wants a comedic take on it, we watched this recently and found it hilarious - I know the link looks NSFW, but I promise, its fine!

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1090805-dick

You got an astute kid, there.
Yes, Trump makes both Nixon and GWB look good in retrospect.

My son is a 14 year old schoolboy. Donald Trump is the leader of an extremely powerful country. Are you seriously equating a kid exaggerating a bit during a conversation with his mum to Trump proclaiming to the world that Ukraine started the war with Russia? Okay then….

I’m not an American, I just live here. The impression I get from those around me is that they don’t want Musk to be in command because he wasn’t elected, doesn’t seem mentally stable and doesn’t have the interests of ordinary citizens at heart. If anyone should be reigning Trump in, it’s representatives from his own party, who were elected and are supposed to be working on behalf of their constituents.