Elon musk salute

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Has he really done a nazi salute in the trump inauguration celebration? 🤦🏻‍♀️

The hand to the chest then straight out like this is reminiscent of the 'seig Heil ' SS gesture.

That's very scary. Thank you for posting! This is all useful.

Well the actual Nazis recognised what it was, unsurprisingly. Message received loud and clear by them. Honestly, those saying it wasn't, grow up for God's sake. Your naivety is not going to protect you. Yes, he modified it for the sake of deniability (I wouldn't exactly say plausible deniability). These salutes are still, by the way, used in South Africa to this day. Look up the AWB.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-salute-reaction-right-wing-extremists-1235241866/

I would prefer to think that, but I can also imagine him being very very bored, often high, and feeling beyond consequence, thus amusing himself by playing games he sets himself like "can I work a Nazi salute into the inauguration"? Like teenagers trying to work phrases 'innocently' into classwork.

Not at all.

Why not choose to not be offended. Why are you offended?

Someone whose family has been affected by the atrocities of the Nazi Regime said on this thread that they felt it belittled the situation and they were swiftly told they should be ashamed of their views.

@BestZebbie it's less innocent than that. He wasn't trying to shock, that was just a byproduct. He was sending a message.

Two things:

It wasn’t a still. He was standing on stage at Trump’s inauguration and made the full gesture twice.

How do you think totalitarian regimes become totalitarian regimes? Plenty of information on that available.

Sorry @Wonderfulstuff not meaning to insult your DH at all. It was a genuine question trying to make sense of what I saw. It’s hard for me to wrap my head around someone intentionally doing that in front of the whole world.

Having read the thread, I conclude he almost certainly knew what he was doing. I still find it hard to understand why he did it. For the thrill? It certainly won’t help him politically. It’s repellent.

The things people will let rich, white men get away with on the pretext of being bored and feeling of no consequence is incredible.

He’s made Twitter into a cesspit of far right racism, it was only a matter of time before his racism bled into the real world.

Whoa! It looks like an awkward, gawky attempt to symbolically throw his heart out to the crowd. That might be what he was doing so people are allowed to interpret it that way.
Alternatively, it might be a Nazi salute. Maybe it’s a rallying cry to far right extremists. Maybe it’s a sick joke. None of us really knows.

But wait, apparently we’re:

Wailing
Gnashing our teeth (whatever the fuck that ever meant)
Hysterical
Etc

This isn’t the face of someone throwing his heart to people

We can have a pretty fucking good guess. Looks like more than one white supremacist is getting pardoned today, and one by the masses.

When you’re part of a regime that’s actually pardoning white supremacists, then what’s a couple of Nazi salutes on stage at a presidential inauguration?

Well, because it's offensive.

How is it different from telling society it's choosing to find the N word offensive? Or that women are choosing to be offended by being called cunts or bitches?

If there's a societal agreement that something has been de-fanged to a point that it's fine for ordinary usage, that's one thing. If the Chief Rabbi of Israel wanted to open a reasoned societal debate about depriving the gesture of meaning, I suppose it would be worth considering.

But having one of the biggest provocateurs on the planet, who has made a point of allowing and elevating fascist and Nazi rhetoric on his platform - who literally bought the platform for that reason - throw it out without comment is not that and it's disingenuous to try to claim otherwise.

@rewilded that person claimed that their Jewish family are fine with a Nazi salute.
Aye sure they are.

My family was also impacted by that. I’m not offended, I’m scared. This isn’t how it starts, this is how it looks when it’s well underway. I feel like saying it offends me belittles the situation. This situation isn’t two nazi salutes. The situation is where we have a president elected who will allow that on stage at his inauguration. While meanwhile is also pardoning a white supremacist who threatened the last regime.

Looks like he just beat one out. Creepy.

It blows my mind that this man made his way to richest person in the world from relatively humble beginnings. He seems a total fool. How did he get there? A mixture of cunning, drive, narcissism and pure luck I suppose.

I gave him benefit of the doubt when he called that heroic diver a paedo

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he worked his arse off to get Donald Trump elected

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he paid someone to level up his computer game character so that he could lie and claim that he was one of the best players in the world. And then I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he did it again with a different game

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said the UK was headed for civil war in the summer when there were riots

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said that only Reform could save the UK

I have him the benefit of the doubt when he said that only the neo-Nazi connected AfD party could save Germany

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he tweeted 'Free Tommy Robinson'

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he tweeted Tommy Robinson's disinformation film and told people to watch it

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said that Keir Starmer was complicit in the mass rape of children

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said that Jess Phillips was a rape genocide apologist

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he threw Nigel Farage under the bus saying Reform needed a new leader because Farage disagreed with him about Tommy Robinson

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he decided to fund Tommy Robinson's legal case

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he threw 2, what looked very much like Nazi salutes at Trump's inauguration and then laughed it off on twitter.

Is that where we are up to? Still thinking that he's actually just misunderstood?

Yes, that plus a $465 million loan from the Obama administration when Tesla was going belly up.

He said time and time again during his campaign that people wouldn't have to ever vote again. I found that probably one of the most chilling things he said during it, and so many people have just walked into it. I hope he never manages it but he has a majority everywhere that can decide these things

And someone whose family was affected by the atrocities of WWII and the Nazi regime itself in every conceivable manner tells you it's fucking scary.

Yep exactly. I made up my mind about him after he called the heroic diver a pedophile. It was very clear what sort of person he was from that moment on.

It's almost like we are allowed different views and not to be offended. Is that okay or not?