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Elon musk salute

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EasterIssland · 20/01/2025 22:20

Has he really done a nazi salute in the trump inauguration celebration? 🤦🏻‍♀️

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TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:12

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:10

in what was quoted by you! read it again

When you posting that video?

LizzieSiddal · 21/01/2025 09:13

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:08

@brunettemic - tell me exactly what hitler did to rise to power which is the same as what trump farage etc are doing? You are talking utter nonsense. Tell me Hitler's game plan from the 1920s to the point at which his party was elected. Exactly what he did, how he liased with other parties in power and other elected officials. Exactly what his policies were. And why. And then draw parallels to what is being done today. And then report back. Thank you!

Read some history books, it’s all there for you! The similarities are there for all to see. (Unless you’re stupid).

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:14

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:03

Post a video of you doing it then. Post it on here and where all your friends and family can see it. Post it where your boss can see it and tag the people you work for. If it’s so harmless. Go on support your hero and post it.

It was not a nazi salute. There is no need to anyone to copy to prove that. It was not a nazi salute.

Where did I say he was my hero? I didn't. I said he was being intentionally discredited. You are gaslighting, my friend.

bombastix · 21/01/2025 09:15

If you manage to make a gesture that looks like a full Nazi salute then you discredit yourself @lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin

ThejoyofNC · 21/01/2025 09:15

God what a load of absolute bullshit. Such a pathetic reach and not surprising in the slightest.

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:15

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:14

It was not a nazi salute. There is no need to anyone to copy to prove that. It was not a nazi salute.

Where did I say he was my hero? I didn't. I said he was being intentionally discredited. You are gaslighting, my friend.

Post a video of you doing it then if it’s not a Nazi salute. If there’s nothing wrong with it then you do it. Do it when you go round your mams house, do it when you walk in to work to all your colleagues. Come on if we’re all hysterical and it’s not that bad you do it.

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:15

LizzieSiddal · 21/01/2025 09:13

Read some history books, it’s all there for you! The similarities are there for all to see. (Unless you’re stupid).

I am quite familiar with the history around how Hitler rose to power. What you say is incorrect. If you disagree, link your sources, and describe the similarities.

Chenecinquantecinq · 21/01/2025 09:16

He's autistic and awkward he was clearly throwing a heart into audience and it was a clumsy, socially awkward autistic move!!

Some of you need a sit down and a cup of tea!!

bombastix · 21/01/2025 09:16

@lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin are you a bot? You post bot style

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:17

Chenecinquantecinq · 21/01/2025 09:16

He's autistic and awkward he was clearly throwing a heart into audience and it was a clumsy, socially awkward autistic move!!

Some of you need a sit down and a cup of tea!!

Then you do it. If it’s just a gesture you start doing it when you see your mates.

Projectme · 21/01/2025 09:17

Nope.
I've read it again.
"Frankly they need better dirty tricks. The "everyone is Hitler" attack is so tired"

Where does it specifically say 'It was not a nazi salute"? as per your quote?

No-where in that statement does it say 'it was not a nazi salute'.

theworldie · 21/01/2025 09:17

SassK · 20/01/2025 23:05

Flush them girl. Honestly, there's a shit load on here who need a proper break from internetting.

I have to say I agree, it just looks like a kind of air high five to me.

Some of these comments are just crazy.

ThDanielDay · 21/01/2025 09:18

They're all just fucking desperate to be allowed to say the N word again and are working their way up to it incrementally.

bombastix · 21/01/2025 09:18

I haven't seen autistic people doing inadvertent Nazi salutes. If you believe that you really are stupid

Phthia · 21/01/2025 09:18

Ringpeace · 20/01/2025 22:57

He can do what he wants. Nobody can touch him. His man's in the White House.

Till they fall out, which is probably just a matter of time.

DanceTheDevilBackIntoHisHole · 21/01/2025 09:18

Projectme · 21/01/2025 09:01

The Independent says he responded to the criticism of the gesture in a post on X. 'Frankly they need better dirty tricks. The "everyone is Hitler" attack is so tired'.
So he's unapologetic.

Even better than that, he gets to accuse the 'mainstream liberal media' and democrats of dirty tricks and 'look how they're portraying is as Nazi's to discredit us' which his supporters will love, while simultaneously delighting the far right by the salute itself. Win win.

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:18

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:15

Post a video of you doing it then if it’s not a Nazi salute. If there’s nothing wrong with it then you do it. Do it when you go round your mams house, do it when you walk in to work to all your colleagues. Come on if we’re all hysterical and it’s not that bad you do it.

I think my last post was clear...

But will point out that my mam has not ever been in a crowd of supporters in front of me either so there really is no parallel possible.

Not engaging with you anymore. Have a good day.

anotherside · 21/01/2025 09:19

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:14

It was not a nazi salute. There is no need to anyone to copy to prove that. It was not a nazi salute.

Where did I say he was my hero? I didn't. I said he was being intentionally discredited. You are gaslighting, my friend.

See you say that, but the beauty of the internet is that anyone can watch the video
— and see that it was indeed a Nazi salute. The only argument can be over intent. And given his extreme right wing views and immigrant obsession it’s not looking good.

Chenecinquantecinq · 21/01/2025 09:19

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:17

Then you do it. If it’s just a gesture you start doing it when you see your mates.

Gosh.Throwing your hand forward from the heart is a gesture. As he is so awkward and wooden etc it came across wrong. Yes socially awkward people often make gaffes in real life they aren't normally hauled across the coals for it nowadays.

bombastix · 21/01/2025 09:19

ThDanielDay · 21/01/2025 09:18

They're all just fucking desperate to be allowed to say the N word again and are working their way up to it incrementally.

Don't worry, it will get quickly to the "earn your place if not white" quickly enough

ThejoyofNC · 21/01/2025 09:19

ThDanielDay · 21/01/2025 09:18

They're all just fucking desperate to be allowed to say the N word again and are working their way up to it incrementally.

Are you actually insane? What the hell

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:19

lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin · 21/01/2025 09:18

I think my last post was clear...

But will point out that my mam has not ever been in a crowd of supporters in front of me either so there really is no parallel possible.

Not engaging with you anymore. Have a good day.

Thought as much.

You are all so bold with your anon usernames. Post the videos if it’s so harmless. If you truly thought it was just a gesture you’d be doing it.

fromthevault · 21/01/2025 09:20

Here are Umberto Eco's 14 rules of fascism. Eco grew up under Mussolini, and makes the point that whilst Nazism is a very specific ideology, fascism comes in many forms. I think Musk and Trump are more fascists than actual Nazis, tbh.

@lazlosaisthistimeiknowsoursidewillwin maybe you could take a look at this list and tell us which of these rules Trump, Farage et al don't adhere to? Rather than your daft 'write me an essay with citations about Hitler or you're LYING' bad-faith posting?

  1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
  2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
  3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
  4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
  5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
  6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
  7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
  8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
  9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
  10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
  11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
  12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
  13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
  14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning
snowmichael · 21/01/2025 09:20

HolidayBrochure · 20/01/2025 22:41

There is no denying it's a fascist salute. I cannot believe Americans voted for this.

No one has ever voted for Musk

TopshopCropTop · 21/01/2025 09:20

Chenecinquantecinq · 21/01/2025 09:19

Gosh.Throwing your hand forward from the heart is a gesture. As he is so awkward and wooden etc it came across wrong. Yes socially awkward people often make gaffes in real life they aren't normally hauled across the coals for it nowadays.

Then post a video of you doing it. If it’s so harmless come on what are you waiting for.

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