Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

It's ridiculous. Murdoch's been pulling the strings for decades, foreign national. Musk writes a few tweets and now Westminster have a problem. Blair was practically begging Murdoch for support, as well as every Tory leader was.

Not to mention other nefarious characters like Soros pulling the strings. At least Musk is up front and isn't a shadowy figure.

The man is genuinely outraged over the grooming gangs. Any human being should be.

The man is genuinely outraged over the grooming gangs

Only 16% of people polled agree with you.

Yes - I know !

The same Brits who elected Keir Starmer as Prime Minister.

I think you’re a bit muddled, you might want to reconsider.

'The same Brits who elected Keir Starmer as Prime Minister.'
Aka the majority of those who voted.

Funny, people who don't like Starmer normally point to how low a percentage of that vote he (actually his party) got.

As you know perfectly well- I never said I thought he was “genuinely outraged over the grooming gangs”
Really tiresome when posters deliberately misrepresent what was said 🙄

Just because I don’t like Musk doesn’t mean I don’t think he is right to raise THIS issue.

Deflect away.
It’s obvious you don’t want the discussion to be about the grooming gangs .
Anything but that …

Mate, that was a direct quote from a post I was replying to. Do try to keep up.

Why are you on a thread about Musk complaining that people are talking about Musk? You said you don't even care about Musk.

Same with the elites/political establishment. Always problematic to draw attention to paedos, as they're all at it the higher up you go.

They couldn't get rid of Epstein quick enough.

Oh the conspiracy theorists have joined . Bravo.
It's not that people don't want to discuss it. It's already been discussed. There have already been public enquiries and recommendations as a result of those.

You’re pretty transparent.
You know this discussion is about Cummings giving Musk information on grooming gangs and we’re discussing whether he should be tweeting about the grooming gangs?
Interesting that you talk about everything but the grooming gangs.

Not everyone agrees with you. We are all allowed our view.

This isn't about Cummings giving Musk information about grooming gangs, it's about Cummings (allegedly) feeding Musk information about various things that he thinks Musk can use to destabilise the British government.

@ThePoshUns

I know you want us all to close our eyes and shut up 🙈
I wonder why? Is it just because you hate Musk ?

“A year after Jay’s harrowing findings, a Report of Inspection of Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council in 2015 found that misplaced “political correctness” had cemented the council’s failures and that it was very much still in denial about the full scale of the horror. In fact, 70 per cent of the councillors (including those in the cabinet) disputed Jay’s findings. One councillor stated: “I struggle to accept the number [of girls found to have been abused] but I’m not a mathematician.”
You can throw all the money in the world at these inquiries but no good will ever come from them until we accept that a sickness engulfed our politics, police and media — keeping many chapters of this story hidden. Patience for statements like Champion’s has worn thin.”

Yes . But the information Cummings has passed on is true. If the scandal wasn’t properly dealt with then that’s on the people who should have dealt with it .

The enquiry was not wide ranging enough. It was far too narrow. If some people think that looks like a cover up then attempts to further shut down debate start to look very suspicious.

People with views like yours are making it easy for thugs like Tommy Robinson to say “they’re lying to you” . Because you’re contemptuous of ordinary people.
You've sneered at the ignorance of ordinary people who , in your view, are too naive ( unlike you) to see what Musk is up to.
Im not naive about Musk . I just want a full and transparent enquiry.

@ThePoshUns

"Andy Burnham is trying to capitalise for his own gains."

I personally do not support a second inquiry and would much prefer that the urgent recommendations of the Jay inquiry were implemented first. Something that has not happened for 2.5 years (2 years under the Tories and 0.5 years under Labour).

Indeed the Child Wellbeing and Schools Bill presented in December contained none of the Jay Recommendations. It was only this week thanks to the publicity generated by Musk's posts that Yvette Cooper promised to now include one of the Jay recommendations that "those who cover up or fail to report child sexual abuse could face professional or criminal sanctions".

Now turning to the Andy Burnham trying to capitalise on this topic for his own political gains maybe he is. But equally I believe that Musk, Farage and Badenoch are trying to capitalise on this topic for their own political gains. But it would be incredibly naive to think that the down playing of this topic by Starmer and the Labour Party are equally not for their own political gains.

But what really matters first here is that the recommendations of the Jay inquiry are implemented as soon as possible.

Once that is at least in motion the discussion should (but won't be - because it's a vote loser for Labour) turned to the institutional negligence/ cover up / ignoring by local authorities, local politicians, local police, social workers, children's homes, media etc that allowed this horrific organised gang rape of children to go on for so long unchallenged.

Absolutely agree with nearly all of that.
I would like a second enquiry to pick up on the shortcomings of the first but I would absolutely accept the approach you’ve outlined.

@OpheliaWasntMad To request for more public inquiries on this is totally valid. The Jay Report took 7 years and cost £200m and I understand why it might not be considered wide enough, but I think it’s also a good indicator of the scale of these investigations. The main reason it took so long is because of the incredibly difficult experience it is for victims/survivors, so their wellbeing has to be at the centre of it and this essential care takes time. It doesn’t mean it can’t be done, but the conclusions won’t be reached for years. In the meantime, we need to act on the 20 recommendations of the report that’s already been done.

Nobody is blocking further inquiries - Starmer and Jess Phillips have stated in parliament that if the victims want another inquiry then they can. The demand for another inquiry last week was brought last-minute by a the Tory party (who took no action on the 20 recommendations from The Jay Report when in government) as an amendment to a children’s bill on welfare and reform - an amendment of an inquiry would have killed that bill (and wouldn’t have led directly to an inquiry). The bill had much needed measures in it, such extra powers and policy to help protect children taken out of school like in the horrendous case of Sara Sharif. The very same people who were demanding another public inquiry into the grooming gangs, knew that they were risking killing a bill on children’s welfare and reform. They can call for a public inquiry separately and/or they could have acted on the one they had done when in power.

Thank you . I absolutely agree that we need to act in the recommendations as a matter of urgency and I understand that enquiries are expensive and take time.

re “Nobody is blocking further inquiries”

I was answering @ThePoshUns who said
“There is no light to be shed in grooming gangs unless you have lives without reading a single newspaper for the last 15 years or so.
There is no need for further enquiries either.
Men have been prosecuted and are still under investigation for these abhorrent offences.”

Like the poll said, only a tiny minority of people think that Musk actually cares about the victims. Ordinary people don't believe that he cares. I don't think it was Cummings who told Musk about the grooming gangs either. Musk has been tweeting about Tommy Robinson for a while, which links with the Southport riots and the people jailed over tweets - that's where the grooming gangs stuff info has come from, in my opinion. Cummings also isn't stupid enough to have directed Musk to Tommy Robinson. Like Farage, Cummings knows that isn't going to go down well with the British public.