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Labour government

182 replies

DoNotBlameTheMessenger · 07/01/2025 22:01

With Starmer now, apparently being the most unpopular PM we've ever had - and all the things he's done since they got into power, are you still pleased you voted for them?

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MajorCarolDanvers · 07/01/2025 23:30

I voted for him. Knew he was a bit shit but still way, way, way better than the Tories.

and got the added bonus of getting rid of my SNP MP so that was well worth it.

AncientAndModern1 · 07/01/2025 23:35

i did and would again. Anyone who thinks that the Tories didn’t leave the country in ruins is deluded. I am particularly impressed with Wes Streeting who appears utterly committed to trying to rescue the NHS. Also very much like Yvette Cooper.

BabyNameHelpPleaseMumsies · 07/01/2025 23:44

FaithFables · 07/01/2025 22:13

Still better than the last 4 PMs.

Yup

PickAChew · 07/01/2025 23:46

I didn't vote for him but it's nice to have a grown up in charge, for a change.

BurntBroccoli · 07/01/2025 23:51

Yes - he's dealing with the unpopular policies first head on. It's good that they're not afraid to be unpopular and doing what is best for the country, not rich cronies.

The Right Wing press are definitely gunning for Labour at the moment though. Saying that they have been since July!

Nicecuppatea2025 · 08/01/2025 00:07

Surely it’s way too early to assess how effective this government will be? The economy was already struggling and they’ve taken over the hot seat at a very challenging time locally and globally.

I am certain we did the right thing, as a country, calling Labour up from the subs bench and giving the Conservatives time out. Plus, going left when other countries are going right might not be a bad thing either.

So far I have found Starmer to be intelligent, informed and considered. I don’t think popularity at this point in his term is important at all.

My biggest concern right now is the bullying language coming out of the US. The thought of further disruption to global political systems is frightening.

JRSKSSBH · 08/01/2025 09:52

“Economy was struggling….”

Where do you get your facts from? Any struggling now is due to incompetent Rachel the “economist” from customer relations. You might want to look at the yields on 30 year gilts before you next post. Highest for 27 years. Higher than post-mini budget under Truss.

JRSKSSBH · 08/01/2025 09:53

Anyone who finds Starmer intelligent and considered, must have a very low benchmark.

1990s · 08/01/2025 09:56

Katypp · 07/01/2025 23:15

It seems that the only criteria a lot of posters value about Labour is they are not Tories.
Get rid of WFP - they are not as bad as the Tories
Go back on paying WASPI women -they are not as bad as the Tories
Economy tanking - they are not as bad as the Tories.
It would be interesting to see someone actually come up with something positive about what Labour are rather than what they are not.

Every time I watch or hear the news and there is a new thing they’ve put in place I think “Oh great progress is being made on that broken thing”. Such a relief.

Will it all be fixed immediately? No.

EasternStandard · 08/01/2025 10:04

I’m glad I didn’t but still it’s painful to watch the impact of their policies

Economic analysis today is dire. It will start to filter through even if people want to give them time

In fact that length of time is priced in by the markets now and we’re paying for it already

EasternStandard · 08/01/2025 10:07

PickAChew · 07/01/2025 23:46

I didn't vote for him but it's nice to have a grown up in charge, for a change.

But why would a ‘grown up’ want to take us towards stagflation?

Higher borrowing costs and likely lower public spending

coronafiona · 08/01/2025 10:44

Squareroot · 07/01/2025 22:40

Good god, how can anyone with any memory prefer a Tory govt again? Just cast your mind back to the shit show the country was in after 14 years - the state of our public services, rolling strikes, lies & deceit in govt by our politicians & ooh, don’t forget how many billions the economy has lost because of Brexit. So don’t tell me Labour are failing after 6 sodding months. Just think about the monumental scale of work that has to be done!

When the mantra about the Budget kicks off, with Tesco & the like talking about how jobs will be lost & investment lost, remember Tesco only last year announced its biggest profits EVER & not long ago we were talking about supermarkets profiteering. They could just return a smaller profit, no?

And don’t get me started on the Tories calls for a national inquiry into child sex abuse but their refusal to rebuke Musk & stand up for Jess Phillips. All politicians of all stripes should be united here. Musk is a dangerous renegade & should be condemned. The Tories could’ve acted after the Jay report but they didn’t. Completely unacceptable.

Couldn't agree more

User37482 · 08/01/2025 10:47

No didn’t vote for him but I can’t bear to watch..it actually makes me feel quite tense if I think the government are going to announce something.

EasternStandard · 08/01/2025 10:49

Moier · 07/01/2025 22:06

I didn't vote labour. Never have never will.
False promises to get votes.
I knew this would happen.

I knew this would happen.

Same

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 08/01/2025 10:50

HappiestSleeping · 07/01/2025 22:03

I didn't vote for him, but he is no worse than any of the previous Conservative PMs. History will decide if he is better. And time. It is hard to imagine how he could be worse.

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Katypp · 08/01/2025 10:51

Another soundbite trotted out endlessly is 'the grown-ups are in charge'.
What does that mean exactly?

sunflowersngunpowdr · 08/01/2025 11:03

There is absolutely no difference between the labour and conservative governments and hasn't been since Blair left office. The same globalist policies being pushed by them all. Net zero. Open boarders. Bigger and more interfering state. Higher taxes. DEI policies. Push for the normalisation of trangenderism in to children. Outsourcing power of parliament to quangos which effectively renders voting pointless. Pursuing non crime hate crime over actual crime. Covering up for and protecting gang rape peadophiles. That's before I even get to how they locked people in their own homes during covid. The way old people became prisoners in their nursing homes. Terminally ill children being kept from their families. Etc. And labour supported it all and called for tougher measures at the time. How or why anyone could vote for either of these parties knowing what we know is far beyond me.

Paul2023 · 08/01/2025 11:26

Both the same. Both parties would disagree both they they essentially are. Because the status quo is so heavily embedded in Westminster, it’s the civil servants that run the country and the banks. The banking sector must play a huge part in government surely.

I don’t know why people vote for either Labour and Conservatives and expect something different. The very core of politics in this county has been broken for decades.

The country is over 2 trillion in debt. I can’t see how that debt will ever be paid off.

Labour have made it cost more to employ people, so much for the party for working people.

And if there was a £22 billion black hole , why did Ed Miliband give £11 billion away to foreign countries for climate change?

EarthlyNightshade · 08/01/2025 11:36

How about you, OP? Are you pleased you voted for him?

HappiestSleeping · 08/01/2025 12:11

sunflowersngunpowdr · 08/01/2025 11:03

There is absolutely no difference between the labour and conservative governments and hasn't been since Blair left office. The same globalist policies being pushed by them all. Net zero. Open boarders. Bigger and more interfering state. Higher taxes. DEI policies. Push for the normalisation of trangenderism in to children. Outsourcing power of parliament to quangos which effectively renders voting pointless. Pursuing non crime hate crime over actual crime. Covering up for and protecting gang rape peadophiles. That's before I even get to how they locked people in their own homes during covid. The way old people became prisoners in their nursing homes. Terminally ill children being kept from their families. Etc. And labour supported it all and called for tougher measures at the time. How or why anyone could vote for either of these parties knowing what we know is far beyond me.

There is absolutely no difference between the labour and conservative governments and hasn't been since Blair left took office.

I think the demise started when he took office, however at least there were still political heavy hitters on both sides during that time. Even Blair didn't damage the economy as much as the Conservative party have over the last 14 years.

username299 · 08/01/2025 12:12

Katypp · 08/01/2025 10:51

Another soundbite trotted out endlessly is 'the grown-ups are in charge'.
What does that mean exactly?

The clown car has left Downing Street.

PickAChew · 08/01/2025 12:41

We've had 14 years of a party in power that has been in an ever increasing state of disarray with endless squabbles. They threw ridiculous sums of money at impressive sounding schemes (eg Rwanda, PPE) with nothing to show for it except, in many cases, that they've made their wealthy mates a little bit richer. Far too many grandiose promises with no substance to them (40 new hospitals, for example)

So yes, grown ups. Labour might not get everything right but at least they're getting on with it without endless bluster and bickering.

EasternStandard · 08/01/2025 12:55

PickAChew · 08/01/2025 12:41

We've had 14 years of a party in power that has been in an ever increasing state of disarray with endless squabbles. They threw ridiculous sums of money at impressive sounding schemes (eg Rwanda, PPE) with nothing to show for it except, in many cases, that they've made their wealthy mates a little bit richer. Far too many grandiose promises with no substance to them (40 new hospitals, for example)

So yes, grown ups. Labour might not get everything right but at least they're getting on with it without endless bluster and bickering.

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Is ‘getting on with it’ making sure we have the highest borrowing costs in 27 years?

Will you still think that if we get the stagflation and lower public spending

I’m guessing so as you sound keen. It won’t be good for Labour though

SnapdragonToadflax · 08/01/2025 13:00

I'm quite happy with how he's doing and am very glad we have a sensible Labour government rather than the utter shitshow that is the Tories. I don't necessarily agree with everything he's done, but overall the direction of travel is good.

I am deeply concerned about the right-wing media controlling public opinion, and find it bizarre people can't see it. The billionaires want the Tories in charge because they can make more money, that's all. Fools.