Biden Resigns = 1st Female Black President

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For Biden to resign would be the best possible outcome for the Democrat party, giving them the black vote in perpetuity. He will be lauded as the first to coronate the 1st Female Black President in history. Otherwise, he'll just be remembered as a senile old corrupt hack.

Sorry, but "coronate"?

@Redburnett Why am I interested in the US election? Because I lived there for a few years and my degree is in Politics and Government.

I went to bed last night and was sorry her voice wasn't on there with Americast. Yes, Sarah Smith. Thank you. I missed the fortune-teller!

'Kamala looks black'

Looks the same colour to me as people who are incorrectly called white. I think her features make her look quite like Shirley Bassey

If it's true that she could chew up the Donald in a debate, I hope I see one.

I know some people moaned that Rishi Sunak wasn't voted into office as the leader of a party in 2022, but the default that caused the UK to have a brown-coloured Hindu as PM for a little while wasn't a bad thing, in my opinion, and I was pleased Keir Starmer said something along those lines. Sorry, de-rail, due to my musing on leaders and their backgrounds and colours.

What are you talking about? If she wins then she will have been elected. He isn’t handing her the last couple months of his presidency. She has a chance to be nominee for the democrats and if she wins the elections, she’ll have been voted in. No one is handing it to her.

It’s also very touch and go whether or not the democrats will win now, no matter who runs.

Did you really think presidents are forced to continue doing this job and are legally forbidden from resigning? What a bizarre thought.

Doesn’t apply here anyway. I think the OP doesn’t understand what happened. He had t resigned; he just ain’t running for the next election.

Yes I find her word salads annoying and uninspiring. Also I am not convinced of her feminist credentials either as she has locked up violent men with women In California prisons. But of course the alternative is trump which is not great either.

Handing Harris the borders/immigration issue to sort out was something of a depth charge, but it would have been for anyone.

If she gets the nomination (not yet a done deal) a lot of the obvious competition have already endorsed her so are rather suggesting they will reserve their position until 2028, but one of the swing state governors is a likely choice for VP -- except probably Gretchen Whittmer, and that's only because I really don't think the US voters would welcome a female ticket.

It’s exciting that she might choose a Jewish running mate, Josh Shapiro. More history in the making.

Responding to a few comments about my earlier post I do agree that the outcome of the US presidential election is hugely important, but I do not see why every twist and turn of the campaign for months on end is headline news in the UK, given it is more than 3 months until the actual vote.

IMO Josh Shapiro is a strong call for VP. Newsome much less so as most of the USA looks at San Francisco City and thinks f*ck no.

The pictures out of SF (and "liberal" NW cities like Portland, or Vancouver in Canada -- split between Triads and drugs and a substantial right-thinking wealthy mc [my cousin lives there in Kitsilano]) are tragic opioid car crashes. The respectable blue collar worker is going to think, "Definitely not going to vote for that; we already have quite enough of those problems at home".

To be more precise, she ran for president and WON the popular vote by a substantial margin. There are many opinions about why she lost the electoral vote, and two that I agree with are the Russian disinformation (possibly solicited by Trump) and the overwhelming conviction that she'd have a landslide victory, which led many people not to bother voting.
However, when I run into someone who insults her by citing her husband's sexual misdeeds, I know it's useless to try for a serious discussion with that poster.

I was referring to her condoning her husband’s sexual misconduct. Just like there are women who are all for denying women reproductive rights, there are also women who just don’t see an issue with sexual harassment or women getting on their knees to get a pay raise in the workplace. Hilary Clinton is one such disgusting anti feminist woman.

What do you mean “there are many opinions about why she lost the electoral vote”? The popular vote is measured USA-wide, but the electoral votes are based on who got the most votes in each state. The electoral voters don’t choose who to vote for, they are required by state law to vote according to the popular vote within their state. Some states have a winner take all law for electoral votes, other states with lots of electoral votes have a legislated system where even a loser can get a few of the state’s electoral votes.

Isn't one parent Indian and one 'black'? so why is she called 'black' or does this being said add more ticks in boxes?

Yes Harris is mixed race. In all the interviews I have read done with her she has referred to herself as mixed race Black and Indian. I think she should be referred to according to her own wishes. I haven’t read anything from her that says she wants to be referred to as just Black. She is proud of both her ethnicities and is proud to be thought of as mixed race.

People spent goodness knows how long voting for white men because they were white men.

Harris wasn't spouting word salads today. She was very clear. also she identifies as both Black and Indian. She went to Howard which is a historically Black university and pledged a sorority there, so I don't think you can say at all that she isn't attached to being Black.

newsom won't be vice president as there are constitutional issues with having both the president and vice president from the same state. Even if there weren't, it would never happen for political reasons.

the issue with the electoral vote is that small numbers of votes swing the entire state total. So for example if turnout had been slightly different in Pennsylvania with a few people not voting for Trump and better turnout in Philadelphia, then Hillary Clinton would have got all the state's votes. People also blame James Comey's late intervention for the tip. Trump won several key states on very small margins.

Exactly she isn’t Black or Indian, she is both Black and Indian. So she would be the first Black female and first Indian and first female President if she won the election,

I've just heard the last 20 minutes of R4's Today debate, on the topic of Kamala Harris. It's worth hearing to anyone interested in this tread and the US Presidential election. One of the most relevant points that came up was the importance of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin which Harris has to win to succeed in her bid.

In terms of running mates, it won't be Gavin Newsom (because California is solidly Dem to the core); Michigan and Wisconsin have excellent governors, but both are female, so I don't see that as likely, leaving Gov Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Pete Buttigieg (SecState for Transportation) and Henry Kelly, veteran and all-American hero figure as possibilities. And probably some others.

And, @knitnerd90 I agree with you that her speech was admirably clear and direct today. I really hope she can maintain that focus.

Just a heads up. There is going to be an election. So she will be elected.

Just for the record...

By the way, it didn't occur to me until now, but Biden did not "resign." He withdrew as a candidate for re-election. That's a very different thing.

Thank you for the record. I like a bit of accuracy.

Do tell, how have come by this information about sexism in America? 🙄

Let me guess... The media told you. 🤣

More like history, no female candidate has won ever. Hilary Clinton lost massively to Trump. Think about that, people would rather have a misogynist playboy idiot as President than a woman.

Hillary Clinton actually won the popular vote. She got more votes than Trump overall. It’s just the way that the US has the electoral college system means that it ultimately didn’t mean that she won the Presidency.