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Reform are getting a shitload of voters

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HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

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Grantshappsotherusrnames · 05/07/2024 00:34

Trees6 · 05/07/2024 00:32

I’m not surprised that Reform are doing well and I understand why, but I’m surprised at 13 seats. That’s a somewhat stronger showing for them than I thought.

I’m Labour so I’m pleased with the landslide but it’s put a bit of a dampener on it.

The exit poll has 7 of those seats as too close to call, Reform may end up on 6 or 20.
The first serious indication of the exit polls validity is Labour outperforming the projection in Swindon South. A one off or?

speculoss · 05/07/2024 00:34

soundsys · 04/07/2024 23:40

Um...

Blyth is quite far North but it's not quite in Scotland 😁

But yes the number of Reform votes so far is a worry!

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phew! I was about to Google it to see where in Scotland voted that much for reform. Trying to stay awake to hear more of the Scottish results.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 00:34

If it's fishing that makws sense

Yep. Fishing. Struggling coastal towns left behind...

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/07/2024 00:35

Manxexile · 05/07/2024 00:31

I always thought Labour were meant to represent the working class ordinary people of the deprived ex-industrial communities - places like Blackpool, the Medway towns and Wales - and not the professional middle and metroplitan classes of London, the South East and the University cities. Was I wrong?

I'm not surprised at all that Reform has won votes from Labour as well as from the Tories.

Labour abandoned the non-middle class, non-professional working classes many years ago. Labour now despises them.

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This is indeed part of the problem.

lovelysunshine22 · 05/07/2024 00:35

HeddaGarbled · 05/07/2024 00:31

We all know that a good chunk of the population are racist.

We would never have had a Brexit vote at all if it weren’t for them and the opportunist politicians who stirred them up (Farage and right wing Conservatives).

I think we should be proud of the fact that their results are so piss poor, unlike in France and the US and elsewhere. You’ll never eradicate racists but you can relegate them to a sideshow.

So its racist to not like areas where you live be turned into ghettos with practices and cultures that are completely at odds with the uk? Is it racism to be made to feel unwelcome in the area you grew up in because you are not of a certain ethnicity?

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 00:36

sabadoo · 05/07/2024 00:32

I'm off to bed now but I would not underestimate the risk of Reform and the far right at our peril look at our neighbours in Europe, this has been a long time coming so lets not be complacent in our efforts to head it off.

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Goodnight.

Maybe it won't be as bad nationally.

Prawncow · 05/07/2024 00:36

The danger is if the Conservatives lean into this. Cameron only promised a referendum on Brexit because of the threat of UKIP. If the Conservatives feel that acting like Reform will win them votes they’ll do it.

HolyGround13 · 05/07/2024 00:36

lovelysunshine22 · 05/07/2024 00:35

So its racist to not like areas where you live be turned into ghettos with practices and cultures that are completely at odds with the uk? Is it racism to be made to feel unwelcome in the area you grew up in because you are not of a certain ethnicity?

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Ghetto has very racist connotations as a word. It means you object to a poor black area

lovelysunshine22 · 05/07/2024 00:36

@HeadacheEarthquake well i most certainly don't, especially having worked in a service that deals with lots of them!

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 00:37

I recommend ‘Despised’, a book by Paul Emberly (a leftie btw).

Is he the "blue labour" guy? Firefighter(?) redhead?

OperationGoldenDawn · 05/07/2024 00:37

HolyGround13 · 05/07/2024 00:34

I cannot understand what you are saying here. I am saying Reform make shit up because they’ll never have to prove it, so they don’t bother costing their bullshit policies. Not sure where football or other parties come into this. Labour and tories have to cost and demonstrate how they would deliver their policies

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point being any party can say x and then offer x plan but those plans still dont have to amount to anything, just as long as they can lead the public to believe in the party, and when the public are easily led eg bell weather marketing, then distractions eg football etc

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 05/07/2024 00:38

This country has always had a problem with racism and xenophobia. The Reform numbers are no surprise.

nomoretoriesforme · 05/07/2024 00:38

Melonportal · 04/07/2024 23:48

This thread is showing exactly why people have voted Reform - there's a nasty implication of stupid, working class, northern idiots. Don't worry, the sensible southerners will show them how they should have voted.

Absolutely agree with this...

AliceMcK · 05/07/2024 00:38

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/07/2024 23:27

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

Isn’t that Farages goal, not this election but next.

BiggerBoat1 · 05/07/2024 00:39

Melonportal · 04/07/2024 23:48

This thread is showing exactly why people have voted Reform - there's a nasty implication of stupid, working class, northern idiots. Don't worry, the sensible southerners will show them how they should have voted.

That’s not fair. I’m sure there will be southern idiots voting reform too.
Its frightening.

HolyGround13 · 05/07/2024 00:40

OperationGoldenDawn · 05/07/2024 00:37

point being any party can say x and then offer x plan but those plans still dont have to amount to anything, just as long as they can lead the public to believe in the party, and when the public are easily led eg bell weather marketing, then distractions eg football etc

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Right… but it was always clear that Reform wouldn’t win the election, so they have more scope to say whatever, where Labour will be held to their manifesto claims when they get in. The public are indeed easily led, if the use of bots to boost Reform’s online presence is any indication, and the use of old racist rhetoric propaganda from Farage et al

BananaLambo · 05/07/2024 00:40

The Reform vote is partly a protest vote against the tories by people who didn’t want to vote Labour. Yes, some of them are thick racists, but a lot of people on the right are completely fucked off and Reform is the natural home for their vote.

Kendodd · 05/07/2024 00:41

pistachioicecream · 05/07/2024 00:22

This.

I think people surprised by the number of votes Reform are getting have not been paying attention to what is going on and how people feel across the country.

There are huge numbers of people who don’t feel represented in politics or that their genuine concerns for the country are being listened to. The signs have been there for years and in Europe too. Disenfranchisement results in the rise of populism.

Calling those people racist or thick is not going to help us going forward.

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What are you talking about 'disenfranchisement' ? They’re not disenfranchised, they’re the most enfranchised people in the country, they have gotten every single thing they voted for and at enormous cost to the rest of us. They might not like the 'prize' they have won but that's their own fucking stupid fault. These are the 'we don't need experts' lot, they were told and told and told but voted to make the country worse with Brexit and continue to do so.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/07/2024 00:41

Reform in 2nd in Newcastle too

nomoretoriesforme · 05/07/2024 00:41

ExitPursuedByABare · 05/07/2024 00:00

Oooh it’s like Brexit all over again.

Popcorn 🍿 anyone.

Grin yes, please

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 00:42

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/07/2024 00:41

Reform in 2nd in Newcastle too

Wow. University city.

Appalonia · 05/07/2024 00:42

Newcastle, Reform have come second again. This is definitely looking like a pattern.

speculoss · 05/07/2024 00:42

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 05/07/2024 00:38

This country has always had a problem with racism and xenophobia. The Reform numbers are no surprise.

True, it’s still frightening though. I’ll be wanting a map of the areas where Reform won a seat or has high votes to avoid . Hoping it’s not my area.

Kendodd · 05/07/2024 00:42

BananaLambo · 05/07/2024 00:40

The Reform vote is partly a protest vote against the tories by people who didn’t want to vote Labour. Yes, some of them are thick racists, but a lot of people on the right are completely fucked off and Reform is the natural home for their vote.

In fairness, I don't know anyone who voted Reform who isn't also a massive racist.

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