Reform are getting a shitload of voters

[HeBeaverandSheBeaver]

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

Well they want to bring back country sports so they are in the same ballpark.

These are two constituencies in the North East that have declared so far.

So geography/economics will have had a bearing and so will protest voting. And I'm clinging to those two explanations because those are big numbers.

Absolutely agree.

Look at France etc
It's a European thing and also with trump looking like a victory a world wide thing.

I am not convinced by the 13. A lot of the predicted 13 seats look to be very close so I’m hopeful it will go the other way.

I also can’t see them in power in 4 years. I think with our first past the post system people would then tactically vote against them. If our seat was Tory/Reform next election I’d vote Tory to stop them whereas today I voted Lib Dem to keep the Tories out.

That's got such Ross Geller energy 😁.

But yeah that^

@LiterallyOnFire

so anything that happens in the deprived north isn’t important?

That won't help much unless they manage to hide how much they despise those voters.

No one will vote for someone who despises them.

Another one in reform second again

Reform have pledged to massively support fishing and farming communities so that will be a big reason in the 2 results in so far

It would be interesting to see where those reform voters have come from. What % previously voted Conservative and what % previously voted Labour. I’d expect to see that a lot of the red wall voters who switched to the Conservatives in 2019 voted for Reform this time.

It's all part of the same thing isn't it?

I've been flicking between BBC, ITV & CH4 but I haven't heard immigration referenced yet. We need the main parties to engage honestly in that subject, or we will get this endlessly. People are frightened for housing and jobs and draw a line between that and immigration - polling has shown this - and nobody actually addresses it head on.

The French situation, Trump, it's all of a piece.

3rd result in.
Labour win
Reform in 2nd place again!
Love it

well people want democracy, this is part and parcel

although i do wish the public would study as much as they do their football teams etc but instead with politics like they used to in ancient Greece when voting

Mandleson has been on BBC just explaining exactly why Reform are doing so well. There are young, working class people who feel disenfranchised. Reform is giving them a voice. While Labour is seen as a metropolitan, educated party.

Reform have pledged to massively support fishing and farming communities so that will be a big reason in the 2 results in so far

That’s pretty hilarious considering the fact that their leader played a huge part in pushing for Brexit, which has screwed farmers and fishermen.

Some poetry :)

Fascism: I sometimes fear...

I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

Yes! Except surely 'rejoin' is the populist position now, so is that what Mr Farage will be backing?

TBF the extremely accurate exit polling is slightly less reliable for the smaller parties, but yes I think Farage will get a seat.

We are cursed to live in interesting times.

I know but now they're saying they will ban EU boats from our waters and also force supermarkets to pay fair prices to British farmers

They cannot win the election at all due to our first past the post system..,

If we had proportional representation they still wouldn't get in power but it would generally mean nothing is agreed since would be chaotic with no clear majority!

@saythebellsofstclements which will mean that cost will be passed on to the customer meaning the cost of living will be even worse than it already is

Reform have pledged to massively support fishing and farming communities so that will be a big reason in the 2 results in so far

Thanks @saythebellsofstclements

Makes sense.

I saw Gt Yarmouth & Hartlepool also predicted for Reform. Like a sprinkling of turquoise right up the eastern coast.

That's mainly because Labour is, in fact, the party of the educated metropolitan professional class.

I wonder how many reform voters have a single clue what they’ve voted for. I’m reminded of the spike of people googling “what is the EU?” After the Brexit vote.