If you were 'politically homeless' have you now found a home?

[kinkytoes]

I saw an interesting thread on Twitter that said Reform UK is now providing an option for those who previously felt they had nowhere to go.

Does this apply to you? Or have you decided to just 'hold your nose' and vote for someone you'd really rather not (best of a bad bunch)?

Has anyone come across this bunch? I thought the SDP fell away when LibDems formed?? Claims centre left but I don’t get that from them. And a bit Brexit for me.

But I would prefer a move away from the 2 party dominance and I am in favour of some form of PR which would allow other voices…

https://sdp.org.uk/

I can't vote labour because I've done over 20 years of labour madness in Wales and it's getting worse. When Starmer called Wales his labour blueprint I thought Jesus wept.

I don't know enough about Reform, I do agree that we have to have some sort of cap on people coming into the country because that's what's causing the problems for the NHS, local councils etc, but I'd rather try a system similar to Australia where you have to have so many points.

I don't agree with funding Ukraine anymore because it's never ending and I don't see why we are getting involved in that particular war when there's lots of active wars happening.

I'm also disappointed that apart from the SNP I've not heard one party speak out against what's going on in Gaza, for me war is an important topic because I'm pissed off with old men sending young men to die for them and innocent people getting killed in the process.

I don't really know where I am politically because whilst I do believe we need a tougher approach to immigration I also don't believe in war but I also believe a woman is the only gender that can have periods and give birth.

I don't think there's a party out there for me but I do know I can't bring myself to vote labour so I'm open to any other alternative. And I've just read my post back and realised how screwed up my beliefs are so I don't need anyone telling me 😂

Thats Labours policies you ve listed there on skills etc

Reform is a vote for policies that would lead to diplomatic disaster & death, their plan is to tow migrants back to France, with or without their cooperation, how do you think the migrants will react? or the french/EU and these boats are very fragile.

Would lead to trade sanctions, zero policing of the channel on the french side, extreme customs checks, the ripping up of any agreement with the EU on anything, might even lead to our navy clashing with French warships.

Very sensible.....

I agree it is a numbers issue not race.

No, still politically homeless.

If you vote for Reform you condone racism. Simple.

@SuePreemly hmmmm just because this hasn't affected your middle class life doesn't mean it doesn't affect others! Being sneeringly obtuse doesn't help anyone.

@Lifeinlists in the SE not far outside London.

It's attitudes like this that will push people to reform and they'll be silent about it because they fear people judging them.

It's not racist to be concerned about how many people are coming into this country and how it's affecting public services.

You would rather kill yourself than vote Reform? Really? I'm still undecided but definitely not voting Green now as it obviously attracts dramatic idiots.

I never said it was. I get your concerns over immigration. I get for some people it's numbers not race. I get some people feel the impact of immigration way more than others.

But Nigel Farage is a racist and no one should support him. Find a better way of expressing your legitimate concerns.

Yep. Definitely Reform for me. And many others I know. Labour and the Tories are both incompetent. I dont want the Tories, and I think once in, Labourr will revert to type and the far left will start having more say. I look at people like Rayner, and think no thanks. There's a reason Labour haven't been in power for more than a decade. I think atm theyre the lesser of two evils for a lot of voters. Obviously Reform arent going to get in. This time.

That was for @spuddy4

I am politically homeless in many ways. No party adequately represents my views. I will be voting Labour though, as the best chance at getting our awful Tory MP out.

I absolutely despise anyone who chooses to vote reform. You have to be a pretty shit human being to stoop that low.

Similar. I voted Tory last time because Corbyn horrified me so much after years of being Labour. (And our Tory MP is really good and engaged with the community and a really decent guy).

This time- no idea. Tory MP is still the same person, but christ on a bike. What a shit show it's all been.

Nope. That line has been trotted out time and time again. It's not racist to be concerned about uncontrolled immigration. What part of that dont you underdtand? If you just spout out these one liners, then at least back it up with why you think that. It's just a lazy assumption.

You don't want the far left but will vote for the far right....

If enough people vote reform, they get in, simple as.

& if they do get significant MPs, thats down to Labour, i spat my coffee just now, a labour guy said "Yes there will be tax rises under Labour because these are the policies we've inherited from the Tories"

FFS change them??? You'll be in power, stop the Threshold freezes..... what the fuck does "Change" mean if its just more of the same????

@Livelovebehappy I'll repeat what I said upthread.

I never said it was( racist to be concerned about uncontrolled immigration). I get your concerns over immigration. I get for some people it's numbers not race. I get some people feel the impact of immigration way more than others.

But Nigel Farage is a racist and no one should support him. Find a better way of expressing your legitimate concerns.

Yes, and after seeing the shit show that starmer was it’s Tory for me, and the seven party debate cemented it last night.

i think reform are going to get a lot of votes, and we have a shock result coming. I don’t think they will get in, but I think they will do shockingly well.

Absolutely i'm more to the right than the left. So Labour are a weak option for me, although I did vote Labour when Blair stood, as I thought Labour were changing and moving away from the far left. But alas, that didn't last long.

How is it racism to think we need to help those already in the UK of all races above overcrowding the UK more? Our infrastructure simply can't tolerate more unlimited immigration.

@caringcarer

I have clarified this twice below.

Also, absolutely NO PARTY is proposing unlimited immigration.

Quite convincing, I'm certainly off the fence now.

Examples of what he has said that you consider racist? He has said he will commit to lowering immigration. Waiting lists for NHS treatment has doubled in the last 5 years, yet we think it's a good idea to let more people in. We're thousands of houses short, with families living in temp accommodation for years. Yet we still think it's a good idea to let people in. Neither the Tories nor Labour are putting forward any decent ideas how this will be tackled. People are genuinely concerned about this issue. Yet both parties have ignored us, and the result is people turning to Reform.

I thought I had decided to vote Lib but I have found out that our candidate lives around 5 hours away so I don't know now