To say I am fucking elated that this bunch of charlatans are on there way out

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My God I hated Thatcjer and all she stood for .. but at least I think she was honourable in her beliefs even if they were not mine .. but THIS LOT .. from BOJO onwards what a bunch of grifters ..

And before anyone says 'they are all the same ' .. I really don't think so ... At least in the 'lining their own pockets ' agenda .. AIBU to think this ?

I’m not convinced labour are going to win by a majority.

The tories lost out by massive landslide, but that landslide wasn’t taken by labour. The Lib Dem’s made significant gains, and that is telling.

The tories are on their way out, no doubt. But a lot of people don’t want to vote labour, so a lot of those lost Tory votes will go to other parties.

I can see us ending up with a coalition government.

I'm not sure what point you're making about Starmers school. He was 14 when it became private - he was hardly likely to switch schools then was he? And as for 6th form - I'm 5 years younger than him and back in our day everyone went to their school 6th form. There weren't loads of kids switching to other 6th forms.

What do you hope to gain by this? Proof that he is somehow not fit to be Labour PM because the grammar school he went to changed to private while he was there?

And your point is???

evidence that he’s a privileged white male

Right. Privileged white male because he got into a grammar school? The rest of it was out of his hands. Really he should have just known his place in the local secondary modern I guess. Not sure what he can do about being white and male - self ID maybe?

Well I’m ready for a change but not massively excited or hopeful for what may come next.
The alternatives have little appeal for us in many ways.
Labour policies could have a really negative impact on our family situation.
I’d be wary of getting too excited about any changes. It’s unlikely to magically get better very quickly and some people are going to be disappointed! Making promises before an election is very different to actually making it happen.

The current polling suggests otherwise.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

I’d save your elation for the time at which a genuine improvement is felt by you/your family/people you personally know.

Am improvement has already occurred in the last few days for me, and my family.
Hope.

This made me laugh;

Let's start with a confession. In 2015, Electoral Calculus predicted a hung parliament, instead of a majority Conservative government. On the Friday after the election, I received an email from a member of the public who expressed strong disappointment in the error and went on to say "given the events of yesterday I would now have difficulty believing you if your poll indicated tomorrow was Saturday".

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/blogs/camcalc_20170428_pollerror.html

Can i ask where the hope comes from for you? What is it you believe will change or improve for you within a reasonable time frame? Say a year or 2?

I don’t consider that to be a genuine improvement. That is your feeling - that is not money in your pocket, not a reduction in the number of kids in your child’s class or anything tangible at all.

What will improve is Sunak, who has less interest in the UK than Putin will no longer be PM.

The quality of MPs of all political parties is spectacularly low. That's what depresses me. I've lived a longish time and my family and friends all have way more integrity than anyone in parliament.

His school might have changed from grammar school to private but that wasn’t his choice.

I’d call his background working class. His childhood was challenging - his mother was ill and his father focussed on her and was strict with the children.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-biography-main-points-labour-b2499777.html
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It is actually a hugely important commodity. When people have hope for the future, they make plans and invest for a brighter future.
The country can as a result of the local elections has grabbed some hope back and it is delicious.

You are not being unreasonable.
The result in London made me so happy!

I’m talking specifically about Tory activists saying this to swing voters. Fine if you dislike both.

Exactly this.

Grow up.

And then what?
I’m not being goady, just interested in how you see things improving.
What happens after he’s gone? Do you trust starmer to make a difference? What about their policies resonates with you?
I don’t like the Tories, I reckon I’m probably a Lib Dem if I’m anything but our circumstances mean that, on a personal level, labour policies negatively affect my family.

The most important difference will be that people will be happier because the government cares about them and will try and look out for their interests.
It might be simple things like sitting down and talking to junior doctors about why they are on strike rather than constantly doing them down. It all matters.
The tone will be markedly different and that will be huge.

Absolutely thrilled. Bring on the election!

It's curious to see Tory women claiming women's politics for themselves. They must think we're all stupid.

As for thinking differently if we knew what happened at Cobra meetings, the last I heard, the senior Tories couldn't even be bothered to attend them, even in a pandemic.

I would prefer the Labour Party were more left leaning than they are, but they are likely to be a great improvement on this bunch of incompetent crooks.

I wouldn't expect any improvement, but at least we'd have different people to complain about.