Is Angela Raynor a liar or is it all anti Labour media bias?

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I’m well aware how anti Labour a lot of the main stream media seem to be so I wasn’t paying much attention previously to all the stuff about how she should have paid capital gains tax on her house, etc. she was adamant that she didn’t need to.

So it seems like she said it was her main residence so not liable for capital gains tax. But her husband and kids lived in a house a short distance away apparently for the first five years of their marriage which is unusual. A neighbour who lived next to her “husband’s” house said it was the main family home and Angela definitely lived there.

I’ll be sad if she has lied. Always thought she was on the side of the ordinary person. I guess the police/tax man might have a hard time proving anything though regardless of the neighbour’s statement. If all bills, etc were in the individual names there’s no evidence.

What do you mean about lines?

If you click through the links in the Sun article posted by Bromptotoo you will see that Angela Rayner's affair with Sam Tarry was discovered in 2020 - so well before Hancock's affair was revealed.

It seems unlikely that Tarry was a free agent, even if she was, and she did give Tarry a job:

The Labour deputy leader, 41, grew close to Shadow Minister Sam Tarry after being wed for a decade and it is understood his marriage is now in crisis.

Within weeks of Tarry being elected, Ms Rayner gave him the crucial position of chairing her successful campaign to be No 2, which was announced at the start of April.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12898761/angela-rayner-close-friendship-married-mp/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15483372/angela-rayner-sam-tarry-matt-hancock-affair/

She tweeted that she had never been a 'landlady' - personally I don't think that's the same as never being a landlord - 'landlady' suggests a different relationship to a landlord. The lettings relief could be the recent tax advice she is not willing to disclose.

I really have no comment on your interpretation of the difference between landlady and landlord! 😆

I think I no longer care enough to speculate further.

Well I've been away on a short break/holiday - I had better things to do. Several observations I posted today I posted earlier in the thread - e.g. two bed house, AR was a full-time union official in 2007 and a parliamentary candidate when she sold the house - you are not very observant.

Sorry Clav, I admit I often skim past your posts. I will try harder in future.

I got the impression that Angela Rayner was offended at being called a 'landlady' - she was the one who put the word in inverted commas in her tweet. Are you from the North of England?

When did she say her brother didn't pay rent?

DuncinToffee
She wasn't an MP

She was nominated as Labour's candidate for the safe seat of Ashton-under-Lyne six months before she sold her property - I think that's an important detail - also with regards to the electoral register/nomination form.

I am sure the police will have all the relevant information.

Merrymouse
I am interested to know how either HMRC or the police are supposed to resolve this either way, given the time that has passed

The electoral register is also used for credit searches - it seems likely that AR applied for a loan, credit card or mortgage during that time.

Unless she didn’t repay debts I don’t think anyone would care.

Is it an offence to apply from an incorrect address?

The Times has an update on this story apparently. I don’t subscribe. Can anyone see it and summarise?

Just more speculation, it seems.

The Times reports that officers are examining tax matters and “other issues on top of” the questions about her electoral role registration.
"A source" told the paper: “It’s very well resourced, it’s not a single issue. There is a volume of material and a clear public interest to fully investigate.”

Today, the Chief Constable Stephen Watson said: “There are a number of assertions knocking about”.
“We are going to get to the bottom of what has happened.”

Do the police investigate tax matters?

Mmm. A source. So not the police then!

Thank you.

Exactly/

I don’t think you can tell. It may be an officer directly involved, it may be an officer who’s not involved, it may be an outsider or it may be nobody!

Ah well. I do hope that all these public resources are well spent

A source on lobby terms is usually code for nobody, ie the person with a close interest in the outcome

They really are trying every angle:

Meanwhile, Stockport Council is assessing questions from the Conservative deputy chairman, James Daly, about what the council tax arrangements were at Vicarage Road.
He has questioned whether, if her brother was living there and she was claiming the 25 per cent discount, that could amount to council tax fraud, which can incur both criminal and civil penalties.
In a letter to the council he said the single-person discount can only be claimed for someone’s sole or main residence, adding that there can only be one adult resident in the dwelling.

I am sure Stockport council is enjoying having Daly mansplain council tax rules to them

In lobby terms perhaps. But it’s common in general reporting to say ‘source’ for someone who wants to be anonymous.

But a “source close to…” is often a way of firming up the nod to a genuine anonymous informant, which doesn’t seem to be used here.

If all this comes to nothing, who will the Tory press go after next. Streeting?

I think to have credibility you are supposed to say "sources close to" or "a senior political figure" but let's face it I think maybe not all the Conservatives approve of what James Daly has started and so this source is really a chicken.

No way! You're taking the Sun's view of what happened when in their relationship? That's too funny.

I think my post was a fair assessment - which part do you disagree with?