Spectator - The Torment of British Jews. This article almost brought me to tears.

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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-torment-of-british-jews/ Apologies for the pay wall, but if you did want to read it you can get a free trial.

This article broke my heart. Sharing in the hopes of raising some awareness around what British Jews are facing right now in our own country.

Israel did not “retaliate” on October 7th. Hamas invaded in the morning, with THOUSANDS of terrorists (as well as some civilians). On top of that Israel faced a barrage of coordinated rocket fire from multiple directions (3000 rockets in the first few hours) so much so that even the Iron Dome was overwhelmed. It was completely chaotic. The IDF found it hard to prioritise which civilians to save first. Not to mention the IDF did not see it coming - it was a surprise attack - how do you plan a retaliation against a surprise attack while it’s still happening?! The IDF were still rounding up & interrogating terrorists over the next days.

The worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust happened, and hundreds of thousands of people around the world reacted by protesting against the victims. No amount of gaslighting after the fact will ever change that.

@Thunderbird7 this screen grab is taken from Jewish Virtual Library, and I've seen Jewish posters here linking to it, so I assume they aren't antisemitic.

@KestrelMoon

Sky news.
There is loads more.

and there they are 😩

I was sent this

Part of anti-semitism is assuming all of us think alike and agree with the article the OP posted. I don’t agree that Pro-Palestinian protesters are by and large antisemitic. I refuse to be afraid of them.

I am of the not in my name opinion, as are many other British Jews, including Francesca Newton who wrote this article on the 20th of October 2023 from which I have highlighted a few passages that resonate the most with me:

As a British Jew, I Say: Not in My Name
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2023/10/as-a-british-jew-i-say-not-in-my-name-gaza-palestine-israel/

“In ever-growing numbers, British Jews are opposing the government's attempts to weaponise their grief for authoritarian ends by calling for a ceasefire — and protesting to end the mass murder of the Palestinian people.”

”Those who say criticism of the Israeli government or calling for Palestinians to live free lives is tantamount to anti-Jewish hatred imply that keeping other human beings in such conditions is somehow intrinsic to our Judaism. That implication is far more offensive to me than anything I have witnessed at a pro-Palestine rally.”

”It seems almost too obvious to state, but history makes it clear that Jews also need the protection of universal standards of human rights. Jews are not safe in a world that considers those rights mutable, apartheid acceptable, genocide justifiable.”

Israel did retaliate on October 7th. How are you defining “retaliate”? The usual definition is to strike back on enemy ground with your military. The IDF was conducting air strikes on Gaza on October 7th within a few hours of the Hamas attack starting. They were bombing where the rockets were being launched from.

Hundreds of thousands? You posted a sky video, undated, showing maybe six lads waving Palestinian flags.

@Thunderbird7 I have reported your disgusting allegation to MNHQ.

What's the 'disgusting allegation'? @KestrelMoon

Why does shouting for freedom for people equal shouting for the destruction of Israel in your head?

Chanting in support of freedom for Palestinians does not mean I want to take freedom away from Jewish people. There is only reason to be scared of a chant if you insist on attaching a meaning to it that isn’t there.

archive.ph/2024.02.18-093013/www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/jewish-anti-semitism-harvard-claudine-gay-zionism/677454/

@ThatKookyNewt disgusting..

I will always remember how 11/7 was received by certain people in this country.

@KestrelMoon Hamas are neo nazis in their philosophy. That is not the same as saying this is like the third Reich - a conflation you are making.

I don’t think there is much similarity between Hamas and Nazi philosophy, whatever that means. I think you meant political aims not philosophy.

I am not conflating with the Third Reich, I am saying I agree with echo belly that some leaders in positions of power and some journalists are making this conflation and listed a few examples.

An article explaining various common anti semitism.

https://www.ajc.org/news/top-5-popularized-antisemitic-terms-since-the-start-of-the-israel-hamas-war

I didn't say it should be destroyed? Let's make it a one state. Why are the Jews there more important than the Palestinians? Why do they have an automatic right to self determine, and Palestinians don't? These organizations that are coming up with "new forms of antisemitism" fail to acknowledge the mere existence of Palestinians. This is never going to work. And I'm not crying victim at all, I've never been called an antisemite.

One state means Israel being destroyed. It is inherent in what you are asking for.

Oh well, that's settled then. Israel can do what they like - murder, land grab, occupy, abuse, control. Who cares about the Palestinians, as long as Israel is fine.