Is Keir Starmer too boring to be prime minister?

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I was reading an article in the Spectator this morning. Interesting to hear what people think.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-keir-starmer-too-boring-to-be-prime-minister/

Isn't making it up as you go along Sunak's best policy?

August was stop the boats.
September was lets create as much migration as possible.
October was stop the boats again.
November brought us the 3rd government relaunch in 2 months, but no one remembers what it was.
Was it November or December when he sack his Home Secretary because she thought not shipping people to Rwanda was bonkers and replaced her with someone who knows what to do with a women?

Sadly some are for this outcome. The expected gender ideology from Labour is wanted. There won’t be extra funding so just gender as the difference.

No, disagreement. You really don’t like people not being sucked in by your bollocks, do you?

This.
Also when he did the webchat on here he was so spineless. I lost al respect for him at that point.

You seem to have a very narrow view of what is bad for women.

Worse than that I expect. They'll be so financially hamstrung by economic constraints that I predict that they'll go the extra mile with gender bollocks - because it will demonstrate that SOMETHING has happened, it is free and it's only costly to women.

I don't think it would stay the same. I think it would improve.

There is much that can be done, for example, through employment laws and childcare and prioritisation of rape/DV services etc that are not about increased spending but about giving a shit what a woman's life is like.

The Tories have demonstrated since 2010 that they are happy to erode women;s rights, support and opportunities. They have done it systematically and consistently whilst claiming they care about women.

Staying the same, as I said in the post you replied to, would be a significant improvement on the erosion of rights and quality of living that have characterised the past 13 years.

Dull but competent is preferable to the current shitshow.

Yes you’re likely right. There’s no funding but they will have the captured MPs gunning for something. Captured institutions are already there and will appreciate not being challenged and only one half of the media are not actively TRA

Its just another in the line of reasons one has to vote Tory, much like But Jeremy Corbyn, Brexit, Keir's Beer.
Some people simply like to be ruled by those they think are better and doff their cap to them.

So Starmer doesn't even have to do anything - and you are good with that? How easy his job will be when party members expect so little.

Yeah, you can really see the tone that Labour supporters adopt when people won't toe the line. It reeks.

He doesn’t have to say anything at all atm, something about having ideas stolen so it’s fine

It’s his best yet - nothing

He’ll have to stump up eventually and pull the splinters out

He’s dull yes but not corrupt, weak or a liar which I think are far worse.

when I first took an interest in politics -
it was John Major’s era- everyone was pretty boring. But in the main the individuals had pretty high standards of integrity
and was about politics not culture wars. Even the tories seemed half decent back then. I long for the return of boring politics. Though back then it was mostly middle aged men, obviously having more diverse types is a step forward.

Maintaining what is left of Great Britain would be an improvement on trying to run it into the ground at every opportunity, yes.

The simple presence of someone who cares a bit about people as PM will make a significant difference to morale.

Say nothing - do nothing. Brave New World.

So nothing needs to changes so long as you feel like he cares? He can cry during PMQs, job done.

Ah, rape services? Like this one in Brighton?

Under Labour, I imagine there will be far more Sarahs, unfortunately.

I am not happy with things staying the same. I want changes and expect any non-Tory party to set some changes out in their manifesto. I know we have financial problems, but there is much that can be done by reprioritisation and clarity, by not being a party that is riven with internal disagreement.

This line of 'attack' against Labour (that Starmer can't/won't make big changes) is extremely weak when we have watched the Tories make things consistently worse. Every voter knows 'modest improvement' is better than 'continued destruction'.

There is no need for me to get into it in detail because we can all see with our eyes what has happened outside our windows. To deny the electorate's lived reality never works.

It would be better than the lies that have been told by PMs at PMQs for the past few years.
It is an illustration of how low the bar is currently set that nothing is an improvement.

Good Lord, we are fucked.

Ha at this. He just has to show he cares..

I’m glad to see the expectations get bumped down from the unrealistic but this is what people are striving for, no change bar soothing words.

And anyway cares about what? Not sex based rights for women, no thanks

I think there is truth in this that large parts of the electorate feel very strongly: It is an illustration of how low the bar is currently set that nothing is an improvement.

The conundrum for the Tories is do they try to rescue any of their brand (competence, economic stability, tough on crime etc.) or do they just try to drag Labour's relatve vote share down? And how do they appeal to both red and blue wall seats now Brexit is 'done' and has been underwhelming in the eyes of many who voted for it?

To add to my last post - the desire amongst the electorate for a GE has been very strong for some time. This is never a good sign for an incumbent government.