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anyone seen starmer?

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Offwiththecircus · 18/12/2023 22:30

From what I can see, after his entirely unconvincing "position" on gaza he has essentially disappeared from view. Blair notoriously used to do this a lot when he wanted to avoid legitimate questions, leaving brown nosing slaves to face questions from the proles.
So over to the mnet net, which I know has wise tentacles everwhere
Has the famous SIR dropped into your church fete/tombola recently? Selfies welcome.

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IClaudine · 29/12/2023 11:00

So we have this and a Starmer is boring thread running at the moment.

May general election it is, then...

Berl29 · 29/12/2023 11:05

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BIossomtoes · 29/12/2023 11:12

IClaudine · 29/12/2023 11:00

So we have this and a Starmer is boring thread running at the moment.

May general election it is, then...

I’ve been saying that for months. You’ll know exactly what Labour stands for round about mid to late March by my reckoning. And it won’t be drugging your wife to keep her docile.

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:25

Where is Starmer?

Yeah why isn't he busy making videos and defending MP's for making date rape jokes.

IClaudine · 29/12/2023 11:27

Oh god, those videos. Absolutely skin-crawingly cringeworthy.

llareggub · 29/12/2023 11:28

Cringing for you OP.

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:30

IClaudine · 29/12/2023 11:27

Oh god, those videos. Absolutely skin-crawingly cringeworthy.

Well worth our taxes

And don't forget the 6 boxes of mince pies for key workers.

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:55

And how dare Starmer meet with the Greek prime minister when Sunak was brave enough to cancel

luckylavender · 29/12/2023 11:58

@Offwiththecircus - the Iraq war was terrible. But you'd be foolish to think he had much of a choice. Any British PM would have followed Bush in that climate & all Tory MPs voted for it too. And I speak as someone who found it abhorrent.

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:58

And Sunak's flying visit to COP28 was so much more effective than Starmer's 4 day stay.

Offwiththecircus · 29/12/2023 13:23

llareggub · 29/12/2023 11:28

Cringing for you OP.

Er why pray tell?

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Offwiththecircus · 29/12/2023 13:25

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:58

And Sunak's flying visit to COP28 was so much more effective than Starmer's 4 day stay.

Is this the starmer who has already backtracked on his green "mission" before we have even entered the election run up? Or is it his more visible brother/double?

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 13:37

Offwiththecircus · 29/12/2023 13:25

Is this the starmer who has already backtracked on his green "mission" before we have even entered the election run up? Or is it his more visible brother/double?

Has he?

Offwiththecircus · 29/12/2023 13:46

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 13:37

Has he?

I thought it was in the news recently that "sources close to La Starmer" had intimated that he might not deliver on this. Will try to find the story, but please bear with me - am losing track of the backtracking on apparent pledges.
A kind doubtless well meaning person above did point me at a "mission statement" but I fear I wasn't too motivated to explore too deeply - if it is even possible to explore La Starmer deeply. I remember too well corporate "mission statements" from the 80s. "Mission statement" became a byword for meaningless bla. Am amazed that anyone still utters the word mission outside Star Trek.

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LlynTegid · 29/12/2023 13:49

I think before we judge Keir Starmer on his appearance over the festive period (perhaps spending time with his family), we should not forget who the Prime Minister was in 2019. Likely to be spending time with someone else than his family, and for whom the current Prime Minister was happy to work with on terms dictated by an unelected advisor.

SutWytTi · 29/12/2023 13:51

Offwiththecircus · 21/12/2023 10:17

would you buy a pie without knowing what was in it?
Does Keir actually have any ideas?

But the pie sale hasn't even started yet.

I assume there will be a full manifesto.

Do the Tories actually have any ideas? Don't seem to. I look forward to seeing their manifesto too.

Offwiththecircus · 29/12/2023 13:52

luckylavender · 29/12/2023 11:58

@Offwiththecircus - the Iraq war was terrible. But you'd be foolish to think he had much of a choice. Any British PM would have followed Bush in that climate & all Tory MPs voted for it too. And I speak as someone who found it abhorrent.

why did he have no choice?
I remember all too well Blair imitating Bush's swagger in his jeans and leather jacket. A toss up as to whether I found it obnoxious or just laughably pathetic.
What would have happened if he had gone another way? Plenty of European nations did as I seem to recall.

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Offwiththecircus · 29/12/2023 13:56

LlynTegid · 29/12/2023 13:49

I think before we judge Keir Starmer on his appearance over the festive period (perhaps spending time with his family), we should not forget who the Prime Minister was in 2019. Likely to be spending time with someone else than his family, and for whom the current Prime Minister was happy to work with on terms dictated by an unelected advisor.

I care not about any politico's private life.
I didn't care about Berlusconi's private life.
"Concern" about that was a distraction from far more serious issues.
Are you confident that you have the inside track on Starmer's private life, that of other leading Labour folk?
As long as nothing illegal it's irrelevant in my book.
Except to the prurient.

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LlynTegid · 29/12/2023 14:03

@Offwiththecircus I cared about Mr Johnson's private life because it indicated he treated women very badly. And that is just the things we know about.

Whereas with Keir Starmer, Rishi Sunak, indeed other current political party leaders, I have no such concerns and indeed agree it is therefore none of my business.

jasflowers · 29/12/2023 14:12

@Offwiththecircus Everything you ve posted since i said you were a Tory, 100% backs up that simple fact.

You ve used everything you can find to denigrate him.... its Xmas, unless there is some sort of national emergency, i wouldn't expect any party leader to be dominating the airwaves but even when Starmer has been out n about, you find a way to have a go.

100% pure Tory.

luckylavender · 29/12/2023 14:15

@jasflowers - I agree with you, it's like arguing with a toddler in a bad mood. Irrational.

beguilingeyes · 29/12/2023 14:19

Also..Johnson was banging that American woman when he was Mayor of London and giving her £126,000 of public money. Very much in our interest I would say. No consequences for him, of course.
I bet if Jeremy Corbyn had moved his pregnant mistress into No.10 the press would have slaughtered him.

Piggywaspushed · 29/12/2023 15:08

I am very very confused as to why you keep calling him La Starmer?

I am also intrigued as to how you would vote if an election were called tomorrow : as a soi disant liberal leftie .