Biden or Trump

[Tulipsroses]

What's your predictions for the White House in November 2024.

[Bigbadmama]

Sadly and ever a pessimist, I am predicting Trump by a small margin.

[ArseInTheCoOpWindow]

Trump😭

[SeaToSki]

Haley

[Tulipsroses]

@SeaToSki

Haley

She is a more sensible candidate but still miles away from Trump.

[EconomyClassRockstar]

I am still holding out that some small miracle will happen and neither will be able to run and we'll finally have a decent choice but I suspect that is a mere pipe dream.

[Abhannmor]

The USA has good growth and low inflation. Plenty of jobs , albeit some poorly rewarded. A lot of spending on infrastructure and not before time either.

Still Biden just doesn't cut it with the public. Harris is no better. They should choose someone like Gretchen Whitmer?

[dreamingbohemian]

If Whitmer or Gavin Newsom ran for the Dems they'd walk away with it

As it is I have no idea

Hoping Trump will be in jail before the election

[dubsie]

Hopefully they will lock up Trump, the man can't stop lying...and he does it without even blinking.

Biden is too old and what America really needs is another Obama.... purely because of the intelligence he brought to the Whitehouse....for me he was by far my favourite president.

What saddens me is that the current Tory incumbents are hoping for a Trump win to secure a trade deal....what a thing to look forward to. You get a trade deal while a civil war tears America apart ... because in reality a Trump win could mean just that. America desperately needs to come together and find some common ground because there's no future in endless political games.

It's a weird world at the moment because Europe is now being dragged into the same populist trap as the rest of the world....so it's probably not the best time either to be considering rejoining the Bloc.

[pd339]

Biden won’t run. The Dems will select a decent candidate who will win.

[MissyB1]

@dreamingbohemian

If Whitmer or Gavin Newsom ran for the Dems they'd walk away with it

As it is I have no idea

Hoping Trump will be in jail before the election

Agree.

[medianewbie]

I too hope Trump will be jailed before the US election. I hope Biden steps down for a younger candidate. The Obama years seem so long ago now :(

[JustMaggie]

Hopefully Trump will be in jail. I feel very "meh" about Biden. I don't mind that he's old, but his stance on the war in the Middle East has turned me off a little bit.

[GrumpyPanda]

@dubsie
Biden is too old and what America really needs is another Obama.... purely because of the intelligence he brought to the Whitehouse....for me he was by far my favourite president.

Biden has been FAR more effective than Obama ever was. Obama's main accomplishment was healthcare reform and he made the strategic decision to go for it, but the person who actually got it done was Pelosi. Obama himself was a pretty face and a great speaker, but notoriously disengaged with Congress. I doubt he'd do any better in average today - probably somewhat better at mobilizing the youth vote, but OTOH the mere fact of his racial background sadly helped mobilize the right wing Christo-nationalist vote as well and thus assisted the rise of He Who Shall Not be Named.

OP - just too close to call at this stage.

[Linzi2377]

Trump..and i think he will do a decent job

[Tracker1234]

Biden is senile and looks confused and should retire gracefully. What on earth is it still doing in post. Trump methinks

[Lalalanding]

I cannot stand either of them. They are literally as bad as each other. Biden throwing women under the bus and Trump throwing everyone under the bus.

[Lizzieregina]

Biden if he runs. He has accomplished a lot, but I agree that he has aged out. I’d love to see a new face and would definitely prefer Whitmer over Newsom.

I hope Trump is in jail, but it’ll never happen. I don’t know that I’m convinced Trump will even be the candidate. I know the polls say it will be so, but polls have been wrong. I’d prefer Haley over DeSantis but I’d never vote for her.

[dubsie]

He will trash everything, the man has nothing good to say about anything.

What happened to the golden days of optimism in America.....for such a successful civilised country there is too much negativity. And Trump is nothing but negative.

Look at the growth of the American tech sector.... powering ahead....producing some of the best technology on the planet and most of the wealth.

America needs to progress not regress ....Trump represents the past and he shouldn't run.

[ADerkach]

Those who speak aloud about Biden’s corruption in Ukraine are in danger of physical elimination - Ukrainian politician A.Derkach.
Zelensky, despite his promise to fight corruption, in fact began to fight those who fight corruption.
Full interview here: https://invesloan.com/politics/those-who-speak-aloud-about-bidens-corruption-in-ukraine-are-in-danger-of-physical-elimination-sensational-statements-in-a-brand-new-interview-with-ukrainian-politician-andriy-derkach/

[dubsie]

I'm not a fan of Biden but I sure would not want Trump to replace him. I honestly think America is in the middle of a identity crisis and the dollar is losing its leverage....which might explain all these conflicts.

For such a large and prosperous country they have made such a mess of things. They should be focused on health and education not wars

[MsAmerica]

Biden. It was sensibly pointed out that many Republicans have left Trump, but almost no Democrat would be willing to switch to Trump, even if they are unhappy with Biden.

Even apart from Trump's ignorance, bullying, laziness, mendacity, vulgarity and viciousness, it's puzzling that so many of his followers don't care about his lifelong criminality.

[dubsie]

My personal opinion is this is the end of America, the nation is crumbling. Biden or Trump it's fate is sealed as another failed empire. The big difference if Trump gets into power is the state of the union....trump is likely to widen the gulf and lead to a civil war and could see states becoming independent.

[MissyB1]

@dubsie

I'm not a fan of Biden but I sure would not want Trump to replace him. I honestly think America is in the middle of a identity crisis and the dollar is losing its leverage....which might explain all these conflicts.

For such a large and prosperous country they have made such a mess of things. They should be focused on health and education not wars

I bloody wish the UK would focus on health and education instead of wars!

[MsAmerica]

Biden. The problem is, unless the polls start to show this, and unless it's by a substantial margin, there is going to be an uproar of Trumpers. There have to be polls showing a Biden win is likely, making it harder for Trump to lie (or at least harder for people to believe him), and it has to be a big enough win so that re-counts will make no difference.

[Hecate01]

Do all of you who've said Biden genuinely believe that it's him making decisions after the mistakes he's made publicly lately? From what I've seen he doesn't know where he is half of the time and he's getting everything mixed up.

Honestly I'm not goading anyone I'm just very interested in what people think about his capabilities and how he's making decisions.