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IClaudine · 23/03/2023 09:20

I am sorry for your loss Kassandra7. We have all suffered loss and sorrow one way or another over the course of the pandemic.

I don't agree that Harman and the others were pompous at all. I think they did a very good job of holding that bastard to account.

IClaudine · 23/03/2023 09:22

Kassandra7 · 23/03/2023 09:19

@IClaudine You are wrong. I would not complain if they came to a decision today.

You are also wrong if you think I am a Johnson supporter.

I fully understand why processes are in place and should be followed. However I do question how many chances this man should be given and how much time is being spent on this. If he had any decency he would admit that he misled Parliament and stop this waste of time and resources.

I agree. But why did you call it a Kangaroo Court? Why do think that?

Roussette · 23/03/2023 09:27

@Kassandra7 my sympathies to you

HOWEVER it is only by following processes to the letter that Johnson can be held to account and the committee won't be called a kangaroo court. We'd all like a decision sooner but we have May elections and there would be an absolute outcry if he was not exonerated but found guilty before the elections

Roussette · 23/03/2023 09:28

P.s. He has NO DECENCY. He has lied all his life and this is just a continuation of that

IClaudine · 23/03/2023 09:31

Exactly @Roussette

In a couple of weeks or so we will be in the pre-election period. There is no way the decision could be published during that time, it would be against Parliamentary rules/guidance.

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DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 09:31

If he had any decency he would admit that he misled Parliament and stop this waste of time and resources

And therein lies the problem.
As evidenced yesterday, he is convinced he did nothing wrong. Harriet Harman even gave him another chance to set the record straight.

And we paid for his paltry defence.

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Kassandra7 · 23/03/2023 09:42

I have already apologised for calling it a Kangaroo Court and I should not have called it that.

countrygirl99 · 23/03/2023 09:50

@Kassandra7 I understand your frustration that Johnson gets away with so much. I think most of us on here do. There have, however, been a few posters who think the sun shines out of his rear end so some people get a bit twitchy.

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 23/03/2023 10:44

Kassandra7 · 23/03/2023 09:19

@IClaudine You are wrong. I would not complain if they came to a decision today.

You are also wrong if you think I am a Johnson supporter.

I fully understand why processes are in place and should be followed. However I do question how many chances this man should be given and how much time is being spent on this. If he had any decency he would admit that he misled Parliament and stop this waste of time and resources.

Well yes he would, but he doesn't have any decency. So here we are.

Rhondaa · 23/03/2023 11:03

countrygirl99 · 23/03/2023 09:50

@Kassandra7 I understand your frustration that Johnson gets away with so much. I think most of us on here do. There have, however, been a few posters who think the sun shines out of his rear end so some people get a bit twitchy.

I don't think the 'sun shines out of his rear'. What i do think is they were all at work and doing what many others in the workplace were doing, eating etc while having meetings. SD if possible, mitigation like testing etc if not. Yesterday's committee was an absolute circus, long rambling questions with snippy 'answer succinctly! ' demands.

As an aside wtf was that around Harman's neck and how on earth are their findings reliable or relevant when she has even tweeted her opinions on Johnson, how is that not a conflict of interest. Imagine if in a proper court the staff were tweeting 'well he's guilty'. It just would not be allowed.

borntobequiet · 23/03/2023 11:08

Imagine if in a proper court the staff were tweeting 'well he's guilty'.

Did she actually tweet that?

What do you mean by a “proper court”?

Blossomtoes · 23/03/2023 11:11

And the relevance of Harman’s necklace? The barrel is being well and truly scraped.

Notonthestairs · 23/03/2023 11:15

If only Johnson had clarified at the time leaving parties were necessary.
Never mind the funerals or weddings.

Rhondaa · 23/03/2023 11:15

'My stepdaughter is beyond furious tonight. She wants to know where the morale boost was for her and her colleagues when they were pulling 13 hour shifts with no break.'

She will have had a break at worst still in a ppe gown in a designated 'dirty' staff area. ITU staff had more breaks than usual as all staff from theatres etc were redeployed to critical care so staff were tripping over themselves at times. Staff rooms full of donated food etc.

I do have sympathy for ward staff inundated with patients as they weren't given the same star status, ITU staff really did have what they wanted and were prioritised resources wise. I even heard of a birthday cake in the staffroom, imagine that! A 'party' whilst at work.

Rhondaa · 23/03/2023 11:17

Blossomtoes · 23/03/2023 11:11

And the relevance of Harman’s necklace? The barrel is being well and truly scraped.

Oh the same relevance as BJs hairdo which is often mocked on these threads. Or Liz's hat in Russia, remember that derision?

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DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 11:19

Rhondaa · 23/03/2023 11:15

'My stepdaughter is beyond furious tonight. She wants to know where the morale boost was for her and her colleagues when they were pulling 13 hour shifts with no break.'

She will have had a break at worst still in a ppe gown in a designated 'dirty' staff area. ITU staff had more breaks than usual as all staff from theatres etc were redeployed to critical care so staff were tripping over themselves at times. Staff rooms full of donated food etc.

I do have sympathy for ward staff inundated with patients as they weren't given the same star status, ITU staff really did have what they wanted and were prioritised resources wise. I even heard of a birthday cake in the staffroom, imagine that! A 'party' whilst at work.

Do you work in ITU?

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Blossomtoes · 23/03/2023 11:25

Rhondaa · 23/03/2023 11:15

'My stepdaughter is beyond furious tonight. She wants to know where the morale boost was for her and her colleagues when they were pulling 13 hour shifts with no break.'

She will have had a break at worst still in a ppe gown in a designated 'dirty' staff area. ITU staff had more breaks than usual as all staff from theatres etc were redeployed to critical care so staff were tripping over themselves at times. Staff rooms full of donated food etc.

I do have sympathy for ward staff inundated with patients as they weren't given the same star status, ITU staff really did have what they wanted and were prioritised resources wise. I even heard of a birthday cake in the staffroom, imagine that! A 'party' whilst at work.

Will you please stop this? You weren’t there and are in absolutely no position to say what would or wouldn’t have happened. To doubt, minimise and trivialise the hard work and dedication of a young woman who was almost broken by the demands of her job is beyond appalling. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

Crikeyalmighty · 23/03/2023 11:26

I think the problem is people hate to feel they have been fooled- and Johnson fooled a lot of people with the 'aren't I a nice guy and get Brexit done etc' . I personally feel He is actually a bit of a sad sack , so desparate to be liked and plays the 'watto chaps, your mate Boris here' card - when in actual fact he's just a posh disorganised grifter whose views are based on whatever the clapometer is at the time with regards to voting intention, rather than the economy or public good . He wouldn't last 6 months in private business . None of this would matter if he was just ' bozo' in the city but as PM he always was totally unsuitable but a lot of fooled people don't care, simply because they think his affability wins the Tory's elections.

Roussette · 23/03/2023 11:27

I actually liked Harman's necklace so there you go

As for anyone defending Johnson at this stage, I put you with 30p Lee, Braverman, Truss and Gullis. And the less said about them the better.
I dont think you're on the side of rationality

Roussette · 23/03/2023 11:30

Blossomtoes · 23/03/2023 11:25

Will you please stop this? You weren’t there and are in absolutely no position to say what would or wouldn’t have happened. To doubt, minimise and trivialise the hard work and dedication of a young woman who was almost broken by the demands of her job is beyond appalling. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

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Hear hear. Rather different to Friday piss ups, cheese, bottles of prosecco and 'pretend' distancing, pretend because no one handed a pen to anyone

AdamRyan · 23/03/2023 11:31

Blossomtoes · 23/03/2023 11:25

Will you please stop this? You weren’t there and are in absolutely no position to say what would or wouldn’t have happened. To doubt, minimise and trivialise the hard work and dedication of a young woman who was almost broken by the demands of her job is beyond appalling. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

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It's very strange.
Remember all the stories about nurses living apart from their families for months so as not to take covid home to them?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-52280264.amp

The doctors who died from contracting covid at work?

https://www.bma.org.uk/news-and-opinion/remembering-them-the-doctors-who-died-fighting-covid

It's quite insulting to them to make out that working on a covid ward was a big party. Plus i don't believe your anecdata is accurate.

Sarah Link's caravan

Coronavirus: The NHS staff living away from homes and families

In order to protect loved ones, some NHS staff are living away from home while they care for patients.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-52280264.amp

Roussette · 23/03/2023 11:31

@Crikeyalmighty
Well said

AdamRyan · 23/03/2023 11:32

Ooh sorry not you blossom I meant Boris' number one fangirl up there

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DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 11:33

The 'everyone did it' is all Janiie has and ever had on all these threads.

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Ifailed · 23/03/2023 11:35

According to some posters, this is a typical scene from a hospital during lockdown.

22nd March, the Commons Privileges Comittee investigation into Partygate