May vs Corbyn

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Anyone planning on watching?

Schools matter to me...
She is getting an easier ride....

She is being allowed to soundbite,,,

No deal is better than a bad deal, what does that mean? It makes no sense.

@intheknickersoftime
She is alluding to the possibility of not leaving the EU..

Oh she loves her bloody difficult woman line.
Tragic...
But- the Daily Mail etc will be declaring success...

When people try that tactic in Deal or No Deal they usually end up with fuck all... I'm not sure a no deal is a good thing

I thought the no deal reference was related to our leaving. She is prepared to leave the EU in 2 years without a deal in place. So we are out. No exit deal but also no new trade deal etc with EU in place.

That was my take on it Boris, and if that's what she's saying it's not bloody good enough.

Loved the "standing ovation" of one middle aged white Tory councillor man for May

I thought both have come across better than I expected May isn't getting it easy on her uturns and that IRA issue is getting more attention and will do coming up to the day we vote

Corbyn tends to go off track and into his rally speech mode bit like a sales pitch May doesn't quite so much both avoid answering question directly it's what politicians do

What a poor choice we have

We cannot leave the EU without a deal! Honestly, I despair that anyone thinks her position on this is in anyway adequate.

See how quick he was sitting back down though

Argh they did that super annoying this of coming back from an ad break to say goodbye. Is that Sky's influence?

Well, I definetly will not be voting for Paxman, that is now clear.

Corbyn will always do better than May in debating with an audience as that is what he had been doing from the back benches for years.

May is a nervous speaker but I think she is vry much a pragmatist.

Corbyn is an idealist which is good thing for a private individual, but not necessarily so for a leader. A country's leader needs to put the well being and safety of citizens first, even when some decisions clash with their own personal long held beliefs. I'm not sure that Corbyn could do that.

Jokes aside though, corbyn came across better than I expected (it pains me to say that!) , but sadly was still unable to convince me on the big issues that matter to me. The labour party and this manifesto just do not reassure me that they can deliver the goods.

I actually agree with her, we can't do a deal that will cripple us. I doubt it will come that but we need to be prepared to walk away. There is no negotiation if one party will accept anything and the other party knows it.

I personally thought they both got a hard time and got asked the awkward questions, I did think it was an exercise more on how they behaved under pressure rather than anything else. It was just paxman heckling them, not sure of the point really.

"Corbyn is an idealist which is good thing for a private individual, but not necessarily so for a leader. A country's leader needs to put the well being and safety of citizens first, even when some decisions clash with their own personal long held beliefs. I'm not sure that Corbyn could do that."

This.

I agree bluntness, May did not get an easy ride from Paxo either, so at least on that level he appeared to be even handed in his cuntiness.

But
May has no interest in the interest of the country, unless they are high earners.

Corbyn did better I feel.
This will not be reflected in the Press....
We are in for a Tory future....
Grim...

I think it was unfair to bring up IRA with Corbyn but not selling arms to Saudi Arabia who then supply weapons to Isis and bomb the shit out of Yemen with May. Yet when Corbyn argues that he wants a nuclear free world Paxmans response is 'wouldnt we all?'. Clearly not!

He didn't tackle her enough on NHS or schools or even immigration. She says that reducing immigration will be easier once we are out of the EU yet she failed to reduce the non EU immigration figures adequately as home secretary. What's changed Theresa?

I think Corbyn had to go round the houses a bit with some of his responses because Paxmans interrogating is so negative. He gets to his answer in the end but discusses relevant parts of their policy first. Some politicians just say a script that is very loosely connected to the question, ie May, but i don't think he falls into that category.

Im glad some Tory voters have said she didn't do well as i actually thought she did. But i was hoping she would massively fuck up so on that basis she did alright.

Also glad it's opened some people's eyes. I thought that this programme wouldn't really be watched by anyone who hadn't already formed an opinion.

I'm so worried about the election results. I personally think that this is our only chance for a very long time of having a decent person as PM. It might well swing back to the right after 5 years (i hope not) but they would be able to implement so many good policies that a right wing government would have to work through to unpick. They've done so much damage since 2010 and the erosion is just going to continue.

Bit of a waffle there myself

I knew Corbyn would come across well to a lot people. A little like a kindly uncle.

But I have seen a couple of interviews where he was not so kindly and I saw a harsh temper revealed.

What a lot of people need to remember is that he is a person that has unexpectedly become the labour leader. And that even when the most of the parliamentary party wanted him to resign he would not, citing that the PEOPLE wanted him.

Someone that is blind to the fact that the general public do not see him as a potential statesman and will not vote Labour just because of him alone.

Instead he makes a mockery of his own idealism by willing to bring down the labour party by clinging on to power. Even worse he has surrounded himself with cronies and has by given a key post of shadow home secretary to a former lover. I may have half forgiven him for that if it wasn't for the fact that Diane Abbot is and always has been quite inept and even worse a self serving hypocrite. A case of do as I say rather do as I do.

Diane Abbott needs to slip into the background- and fast!