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AIBU article sneery towards english people.

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Thegruffalowswife · 12/03/2017 16:56

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/12/english-can-stop-sneering-at-scottish-football-now

I don't like being referred to as "the scottish" or "the english" and this is the sort of article that irritates me.

If for example it had been entitled "the pakistanis can stop sneering" there would be outrage.

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pigeondujour · 13/03/2017 16:09

I think if you "don't discuss football" and "support both when Scotland and England are playing" you were missing a huge amount of context behind the article you took offence to. He's not talking about international football or English/Scottish nationalism. He's talking about pundits and journalists in England (some of whom are Scottish, you'll note - he mentions Souness, for example) showing disdain for Scottish league football when the English leagues are so rich and yet perform so poorly in Europe.

Thegruffalowswife · 13/03/2017 16:26

Ok but he could lay of with the sweeping stereotype in the headline.

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pigeondujour · 13/03/2017 16:35

He won't have written the headline, but you're being weirdly sensitive about it regardless. It's a really well known stereotype that the Scottish are crap at football, so of course we get 'sneered at'. The subeditor doesn't have room nor inclination to qualify 'some English people', why would they? They assume if you're reading the sport pages you're familiar with the context. Football culture revolves around stereotyping. Maybe it's not for you.

D1az · 13/03/2017 17:14

Live in Scotland but not Scottish, for reference. I don't blame "the English" for anything (DH's family are mostly English and lovely, with some living here but mostly still in England). I think the UK Government, however, represents England with the rest of the UK having a say, but generally having their opinion(s) ignored if English MPs don't agree.
Not the fault of the English people, more the way the Government is set up with England's interests at heart.

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