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Trump (Part 3)

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claig · 29/11/2016 16:13

The last one filled up quickly.

More discussion on the significance of Trump, Trumpism and the Trumpsters and what it all means for Blairites.

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squishysquirmy · 04/12/2016 10:26

Kaija: The question you posed yesterday morning (concerning Major Kong of the Enola Gay).... From the posters on this thread alone, I think it's becoming increasingly clear what the answer will be.....

squishysquirmy · 04/12/2016 10:28

Yahhooo!!!

claig · 04/12/2016 11:03

Thanks, Chris. I never heard anything about Algeria. I mainly just watch Sky News and our TV news really is useless. Not much about Italy or Austria, not much analysis about the enormous possible implications and absolutely nothing about Algeria, so I had never heard about that.

Yes, Inkanta, Trump doesn't give a toss. He is setting the cat among the pigeons all over the world and saying it will be a new world with everything back on the table. He insulted and sent a message to the entire EU by using Farage and he sent a message to China that everything will change with the Taiwan phone call.

Trump will get on with everyone but they will have to get used to the fact that it is now America First. He will force China to do a deal over trade that suits America and will use Taiwan or anything he feels like to put pressure on them.

It is all very refreshingbecause reality and common sense has returned. No ,more spin, no more political correctness and concealing of the truth.

Although i Have just seen a promo for a new John Pilger documentary "The Coming War on China" 10.40 Tuesday, with Trump shouting "America is back".

I don't think there will be a war, I think Trump and Putin will get along fne and China will have to agree with what Trump wants. But it is worth watching Pilger on Tuesday because Trump is tough and not politically correct. Trump means business and that will also mean the end of the EU very quickly, I think.

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claig · 04/12/2016 11:08

All of our political class with Blair and Sir Bob and all of that shower trying to go against the will of teh British people will al be pointless because Trump will probably end the EU for us (thank you Trump). And then the people will realise what a shower so much of our political class and Sir Bob are.

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Inkanta · 04/12/2016 11:15

'Trump will get on with everyone but they will have to get used to the fact that it is now America First. He will force China to do a deal over trade that suits America and will use Taiwan or anything he feels like to put pressure on them.'

YES - good for him. Love it.

claig · 04/12/2016 11:16

Branson was against Trump

"Richard Branson's Virgin to bankroll secret Blairite campaign to stop Brexit

Exclusive: Email seen by The Independent shows billionaire's company has offered tens of thousands of pounds to fund new group"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-richard-branson-virgin-group-eu-referendum-a7430396.html

REVEALED: Celebrities, Blairites and Big Business Plotting to Thwart Brexit

An organisation working to thwart Brexit, set up by close allies of Tony Blair, has received tens of thousands of pounds from billionaire Richard Branson and the backing of singer Bob Geldof and senior Lib Dem and Labour MPs.

www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/22/leaked-branson-gives-thousands-blairite-plot-thwart-brexit/

Go Trump. Save us from the luvvies

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claig · 04/12/2016 11:29

Where's Izzard? Is he late to the luvvies' party?

They all hate Trump, which is why the people, the Deplorables, love him.

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Alyosha · 04/12/2016 12:00

Kaija - you're being too optimistic. Trump doesn't have some kind of evil masterplan - if only he did!

He just verbal diarrhoeas on twitter.

I now think given what is happening in China/Taiwan, nuclear conflict is now a certainty.

Here's why.

Trump starts a trade war with China as promised.
China retaliates by skirmishing with the US fleet or by doing something with the islands.
Trump says on twiter "China should be very CAREFUL of the USA, we have the most nukes in the world!"
China takes this to mean Trump is going to Nuke them..
They launch a first strike.
Global Thermonuclear exchange ensues.

Scenario 2

Iran sponsored terrorists target Trump Hotel somewhere ouside the USA
Trump finds out
Trump bombs Iran
War with Iran
Russia gets involved (Russia & Iran are mates)
Trump goes on twitter, invokes nukes
Russia Nukes USA & maybe rest of NATO

Alyosha · 04/12/2016 12:01

Not sure if Claig, Chris & Inkanta think that nuclear war is some kind of jolly jape given how relaxed they are about Trump's shaky finger on the button, but i suggest they watch Threads. Maybe that will bring home the true dangers of a Trump presidency.

Alyosha · 04/12/2016 12:08

Just try and take the fact that a thin skinned egomaniac now has the potential to cause this.

Inkanta · 04/12/2016 12:17

Well I hope Trump continues to be motivated by inspiration rather than fear, and I hope he continues to talk to whoever he wants to talk to. I like his courage.

claig · 04/12/2016 12:25

Exactly, Inkanta, as Trump always says "politicians, all talk no action"

All they ever have to try and fool the people is "Project Fear" the same old game the spinners always use, "the end of Western Civilization" as Donald Tusk of the FU threatened us with if we wanted to make our own laws once again.

Trump has ended their entire charade and they are petrified that he has shown the people what a lying, spinning shower they all are. That is why they have had to call on Sir Bob for help. When, for them, the chips are down, they always call on a clown, Sir Bob or Izzard and Blair.

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Alyosha · 04/12/2016 12:30

I'm sure Trump's courage in invoking Nuclear war to get China to do what he wants will be a great comfort as we huddle together for warmth in 2017 and fight over the last potato.

Inkanta · 04/12/2016 12:58

Alyosha - you seem to be a worrier and very preoccupied about nuclear war.

Fear is not something that rules me. We'd never get anything done and we'd never make necessary changes if we were looking over our shoulder all the time, worrying what people think and if they might get angry and attack us. I don't think Trump is going to sit on the fence for fear of upsetting China. Some interventions require courage. Trump has courage.

claig · 04/12/2016 13:01

The Guardian. They can't believe what is happening to their world and Sir Blob.

This is what one member of the public tweeted about what they heard when they walked past the Guardian's office window where a strategy meeting was being held. There was a sign on the window saying "Panic. Don't Interrupt. Safe Space from Donald J Trump"

"We're doomed, we're all doomed, I say. The people are rising and Donald Trump won, inspite of our best efforts to stop him. The people are all playing Muse's Uprising on their smartphones on the 8.10 into Victoria Station. It's over. Phone Sir Bob, he's all we've got left. Phone the Orifice of Tony Blair, the public can't stand him, but who else can save us?"

"Year of electoral tests may end European Union as we know it

In Italy and Austria this weekend a shaken EU faces the first of a series of pivotal electoral tests that could profoundly change the political landscape of the bloc, and conceivably herald the end of the European project in its current form.
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The French prime minister, Manuel Valls, has said “Europe could die” in the face of “attacks from the populists”. German’s doughty finance minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, has warned of the scourge of “demagogic populism”, while the EU’s economic affairs commissioner, Pierre Moscovici, suggested Europe’s voters might be poised “to destroy it”.

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/02/year-of-electoral-tests-may-end-european-union-as-we-know-it

And the member of the public laughed at what was heard through the Guardian's offic e window and turned the volume of the song being played on their smartphone up. It was of course, Muse's Uprising, which was being played all over the nation by people of all ages, schoolchildren to pensioners

"They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious"

and a senior executive leaned out of the Guardian window and shouted "this is a safe space. We have called Sir Bob."

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squishysquirmy · 04/12/2016 13:05

I don't think nuclear Armageddon is likely (more likely than it was perhaps). I do think Trump would have no qualms about using nukes if he isn't well advised. Would Russia strike against the US if, for eg Iran was hit? I think they wouldn't but I never want to see it put to the test!

squishysquirmy · 04/12/2016 13:09

When will we know the results of the Austria vote?

squishysquirmy · 04/12/2016 13:11

Playing music on your smartphone without headphones is a twatty thing to do Claig. Especially on public transport.

Kaija · 04/12/2016 13:12

Moore on the implications of the Taiwan phone call:

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-real-risk-behind-trumps-taiwan-call/amp?client=safari

Alyosha · 04/12/2016 13:14

Inkanta - I'm not so bothered by the actual fact the Taiwan call happened.

I'm more worried by the fact that Trump goes mad on twitter, and could easily say something misinterpreted as a first strike.

It's easy to defend standing up to china over Taiwan - but it's not easy to defend raging on twitter and inflaming the tensions.

The latter will lead to a war.

claig · 04/12/2016 13:15

'When will we know the results of the Austria vote?'

Don't know. Our TV news is useless, hardly anything on any of it.

Polls close in Italy at 23.00. Not sure when results are confirmed.

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Alyosha · 04/12/2016 13:15

Russia will strike against the US if they think Trump will whack them.

Trump will say something stupid on twitter which lead Russia to think that.

claig · 04/12/2016 13:29

While the BBC were doing their best to shore up the EU and were holding a live interview with Sir Bob who was using four letter expletives about the people who were bringing the whole thing to an end, the BBC broke off from the foul language of Sir Bob for some breaking news

Senior EU foreign ministers were holding an emergency meeting in downtown Brussels and admitted "the game is up, the people have won" and they broadcast a live video from the Grand Place in Brussels to the people of the entire world announcing it was finally all over.

As ever the British people had been at the heart of saving the world's freedoms and the foreign minsiters acknowledged what role the British people had played for the cause of liberty, free speech and the end of political correctness. They also thanked Donald Trump, the American people and the Trumpsters for making them see the error of their ways.

The Guardian was in tears, the people were jubilant.

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Inkanta · 04/12/2016 13:32

Trump wrote 6 tweets this afternoon to make up this large paragraph. He's certainly an original with this tweeting - and looks like a good message today. He's really telling them how it's going to be ...

"The U.S. is going to substantialy reduce taxes and regulations on businesses, but any business that leaves our country for another country, fires its employees, builds a new factory or plant in the other country, and then thinks it will sell its product back into the U.S. ....without retribution or consequence, is WRONG! There will be a tax on our soon to be strong border of 35% for these companies ...wanting to sell their product, cars, A.C. units etc., back across the border. This tax will make leaving financially difficult, but.....these companies are able to move between all 50 states, with no tax or tariff being charged. Please be forewarned prior to making a very ...expensive mistake! THE UNITED STATES IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS"

Grin Love it!

Kaija · 04/12/2016 13:33

Are you still supporting Hofer now that you know who he is, Claig?

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