Trump (Part 3)

[claig]

The last one filled up quickly.

More discussion on the significance of Trump, Trumpism and the Trumpsters and what it all means for Blairites.

"Our campaign represents a true existential threat like they have never seen before"

Trump said it, and he says later about how they have ripped the people off

"This is reality. You know it, I know it and they know it and pretty much the whole world knows it ... and honestly, she should be locked up"

This is not a game, this is the most historic thing in our lifetimes. They are in panic. The Guardian is in meltdown, Oxbridge teams are working overtime, no expense spared.

The following video was made by the ordinary people at the forum that Missswatch told us all about - TheDonald at Reddit, probably on Big Brother's "fake news" list now as Big Brother panics about Trump and tries to wrestle Donald Trump.

But I don't give Big Brother much chance. Remember what Trump did at WWE?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF0YpXcZw9U

and here is the team at TheDonald's video which Trump cut and used in his final historic campaign advert on a shoestring budget against Hillary Clinton who outspent him by probably at least ten to one as the world's elites, banks and hedge fund managers piled money into her campaign to save themselves, backed by the entire world media and all the world bleeders.

We beat them all. We the people won. Historic doesn't get close to describing what happened.

What a snidey, unpleasant person you are, Squishy.

If DT is so wonderful then perhaps he can spare a thought for the poor person suffering from Aspergers who hacked into the US Government computers and quash this nonsense about sending an autistic and mentally vulnerable person to prison .

See Daily Mail and Medical experts warning over Aspergers hacker on page 12.

" We the people won. "

You didn't. You are not the people. Trump voters are just Trump voters, a subsection of the population.

And shameless as these liars and crooks are, they accused Trump of working for Putin, of being in his pocket.

As Trump said

"the will lie, lie, lie, and they will do much worse, they will do whatever it takes"

because Trump is an "existential threat".

He beat them all, the world can sleep tight again tonight. USA.

Southall - the only person here applauding a self avowed sexual abuser becoming the most powerful man in the world is you...

Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror before you start casting aspersions on others' characters.

Wait, so Putin didn't use Russian hackers to help Trump to victory?

Didn't he say "we might have helped with Wikileaks a bit"?!

cilaig/southall/chris whatever name you answer to.

Trump is decadent and garish. He has the wrong temperament to be President and in a powerful position. Ok he knows about money but when you have said that you have said it all.

He is manipulative. He is a racist too. I expect a lot of trouble and chaos in the world due to this bullying, abusing man.

"Sometimes with a really big fire (corruption), the only way to put it out is with an explosion (Trump)."

Absolutely Southall, which brings me back to why the situation Europe wide is so intrinsically tied in with Trump.

Take the abuse weve had, and still have, on a straighforward in/out referendum here in the UK.

(Just to recap. Labour offered a referendum in their 2005 manifesto, which then won them the election. They then u-turned.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-487653/Labours-broken-promise-referendum-new-EU-Treaty-betrayal-public-trust.html
Cameron then promised a referendum in his election manifesto. He won, kicking Clegg out on his arse, and the reality of u-turning on that promise hit home. He couldnt u-turn. We then had a referendum.
Farage, who for all you can say about him, has spent his entire life campaigning for a referendum on the EU. He was always prepared to accept the result. Farages' issue was and still is the refusal to let the people decide how they were to be governed. As Farage therefore became the very high profile face of 'Brexit' the british people in voting for brexit, became the 'white supremacist racist nazi nation' it is today, thta the leftie liberals with their hanky wringing sobs keep apologising for.

That is, until the equalities and human rights commission, this week intervened and said, 'uh hang on, a vote for leave isnt racist can you stop that please'. anyway enough digression for now)

Weve experienced that abuse.

Then along came Trump. An explosion of huge proportions rocking the US political fire.

In looking now at Europe, they are in a dire position. The only opportunities to secure a referendum are being offered by right wing parties. (And as we know, an offer of a referendum wins you elections, it happened here. Twice).

They however are being assaulted on all sides by the 'youre right wing youre racist' abuse. The holocaust survivor story this week is utterly shocking, whichever way you look at this.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38133209

What europe and the desperately blind 'elite' fail to see, is continue with these tactics, continue to place your citizens in an impossible lose/lose situation, and you too will end up with a Trump. You too will end up with a bomb under your parliaments. You have abused the system of democracy that the great peoples of these nations gave you, and you will be cast out.

Here too in the UK, if the Brexit farce continues much longer, and the old style back door corrupt deals continue, we wont be looking back at Brexit being our revolution, we will see a complete upending of our political class and elites as they are today. We will see another Trump moment.

This is the revolution that Claig talks of, and shes right, its happening right under our noses.

Trump moment? Nigel Farage has failed to become an MP after 8 attempts hasn't he?

Theresa May is approaching 50% in the polls...

The polls can be off but they're not usually off by 20 points (they were right nationally in the US and off by about 4-6 points in the states)

"He was always prepared to accept the result."

This is a fight between the Morlocks and the Eloi, and extends beyond USA. "The Traveller" has arrived, woken up the Eloi and made them see that they've been used only for the enrichment (in both senses of the word) of the Morlocks.

" If DT is so wonderful then perhaps he can spare a thought for the poor person suffering from Aspergers who hacked into the US Government computers and quash this nonsense about sending an autistic and mentally vulnerable person to prison .

See Daily Mail and Medical experts warning over Aspergers hacker on page 12."

Perhaps he can User. He cant do anything till January. I would anticipate hes more concerned about the fact a student in his bedroom in the UK got into the US government systems. Makes a bit of a farce of homeland security. Have China been broadcasting live, minute by minute, all US government officials' traffic? Who knows. I dont speak chinese.

But perhaps he will take a view that if its that easy, we really are ruled by very very very very stupid people.

Trump is using America to enrich himself.

He's giving himself a tax cut, he's deregulating the banks, putting a guy from the very right wing pro globalisation AEI in charge.

Trump is a man of middling-low intelligence. He reacts badly to personal slights and if it gets out what Putin et al have been saying about him behind closed doors I imagine Putin will be mindful of the adage "be careful what you wish for, you might just get it".

'This is a fight between the Morlocks and the Eloi, and extends beyond USA. "The Traveller" has arrived, woken up the Eloi and made them see that they've been used only for the enrichment (in both senses of the word) of the Morlocks.'

Good point, Southall. I will have to read that. I watched "Teh Time Machine" film but can't remember what happens. Is it a victory for the people, the Deplorables, in a Les Miserables "Do you hear the people sing?" way?

HG Wells was of course the classic servant of the elites - former Fabian Socialist and beliver in "one world government" with a hell of a lot of nasty views added to it. He knew what they wanted to do.

South, it was a glib comment but there is a serious point to be made:
Red Adair was a fascinating man and you were very lucky to have met him. But given that you know what he did for a career you must know how dangerous some industries used to be. They have improved beyond recognition, partly due to technology but also due to regulations.

Yes, regulations can be frustrating at times and cost money, occasionally they can be poorly written and have unintended consequences.

But although it is popular to rail against "health and safety" and "red tape", it is easy to forget why they are there in the first place.

A bonfire of regulation, across different industries will not hurt the elites, it will hurt the people.

What was your problem with the old lady in the BBC article Chris? (Thanks for linking by the way, very good article.) She was just sharing her experiences, free speech and all.

HG Wells, just like the elite of today, would have hated Trump, just like all the other Fabian Socialists of today, and Blair of course who is Fabian, if I remember rightly, because Trump is an "existential threat" to the elites and the "one world government"

Blair said that the people should not be trusted with a vote on the EU because they were not aware enough. But in reality the people were aware enough of what the bankers wanted.

And Donald Trump, H G Wells's "Traveller" supported the people and said "I think they should leave". That is why the elites hate Trump, he is not under their control, not in their club, he is with us, the people.

Trump is only concerned about himself. How can anyone punish such a vulnerable person as this student the son of a vicar who is suffering from Aspergers syndrome.

Why can't this country plead for this boys life who is said to be suicidal. It is inhuman. What good will it do to send such a vulnerable person to prison to be raped, beaten, humiliated etc, etc. This poor vulnerable person is already suicidal. What use is this to anyone. He has Aspergers and did not realise the consequences of his actions. It is not the first time that someone has hacked into the US Governments so called security system. Perhaps DT will be concerned but if he is the wonderful person that some on here are making him out to be surely he should show compassion?

'Perhaps DT will be concerned but if he is the wonderful person that some on here are making him out to be surely he should show compassion?'

I very much doubt he will be, so don't get your hopes up on that. They are all said to have Aspergers, I doubt that will make much difference. We don't know what the situation is. That will have to wait for a trial.

Here is a story about the British person arrested for allegedly trying to assassinate Trump. He has Aspergers apparently.

"Someone needed to stop Trump': Would-be British assassin said he was doing it for the US as parents beg for him to get psychiatric care

Michael Sandford, 20, was arrested after trying to grab a gun at Trump rally

He has now told his father 'somebody had to stand up for America'

Sandford has Aspergers, and his father believes he was brainwashed"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3660145/Someone-needed-stop-Trump-British-assassin-said-doing-parents-beg-psychiatric-care.html

It will go to trial.

User I don't know all the details of that case but I did hear about it on the news and I have a lot of sympathy for that young man.
Unfortunately, compassion is not Trump's strength but there is always hope. Maybe with enough pressure (and the UK government's support) the US will be persuaded to show compassion.

'Trump is only concerned about himself. '

Trump is concerned about the American people and other people, unlike some of the last lot of "career politicians". Trump doesn't get involved in trials, he has a Justice Department for that, and although US sentences seem to be a lot tougher than ours, their legal system and people fro what I have seen on Fox News, is second to none. It is a country of law, and they take the law and rights very seriously because their whole history is one of defeating the English King etc.

Claig I'm surprised that Wells was a Fabian. The Time Traveller made progress with the Eloi and made them see that it's not inevitable that they have to be slaughtered for food for the Morlocks. He also taught them that escaping the clutches of the Morlocks and protecting themselves with force are good. Once a few get out that mindfog, and their lives not only were extended but improved, the passivity would be "cultured out" of all Eloi and a new independence put in its place.

' I'm surprised that Wells was a Fabian'

He started off as one and fell out with them, I think. He knew what the elites wanted and was one of their thinkers.

Claig, Trump does get involved. He's already said he's "thinking" about prosecuting Clinton, as though he has control over it.

I mean it's low down on his list of priorities after lining his own pockets by giving himself a massive tax cut and using his position to extort countries into giving his businesses favourable terms, but it's certainly something he said.