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Another Trump thread for those who want to discuss what it all means

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"History Tells Us What Will Happen Next With Brexit And Trump"

www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html?

'So anything offensive, is supposed to be taken as a joke? Because, well it's not serious.'

Not everything. Katie Hopkins has said some offensive things that I think she should not have said, but it is her free speech to say things that I disagree with. That is freedom.

So if I said, 'all Muslims are cunts and should be burnt alive' it would be my right to do so without consequences because it's my right.

By the way, it's against the law to incite racial hatred and that includes using hate speak. Obviously the law has boundaries regarding what can and can't be said in a public sphere. Rightly so.

No, it is not your right to say that and it can't be said in a public sphere and right so. But who has ever said that?

toomanypetals oh you and your fact based opinions! It's sooooooo much easier when you make stuff up. Any way we all know feminists don't have a sense of humour. They just need to shave their hairy legs because of the extra testosterone.

Anyway we all know Hillary is really a man. It's true. I read it on the internet.

But you've just contradicted yourself

You say there should be free speech, yet agree some things shouldn't be said.

Where do you draw the line?

'Where do you draw the line?'

I draw the line at incitement to violence.

Some headlines...

toomanypetals stop being naughty and pointing out evidence. It's no fun when you do that.

Here is Dr Ben Carson speaking about him being against political correctness in front of Obama and he says "we mustn't fall for that trick" and he means the trick of the powerful to remove our freedom and to use their teams of liars to con us, divide us and remove our free speech to object to what they want to do.

Breitbart is not antisemitic at all. One of its three offices is in Jersualem. Milo is offensive, but that is free speech.

What exactly is it that you'd like to say openly, that you feel is being repressed by political correctness?

Give me some examples?

'Give me some examples?'

There are far too many examples. Practically every policy is riddled with political correctness so that people can't object to the nonsense the political class is trying to impose on us. That is why Trump won because he is for "common sense" and he said "we are led by very, very stupid people, very, very stupid people" and that is because they are afraid to stand up for common sense in case it offends the teams of liars who promote the nonsense of the politcal class.

I have already explained that the entire reason Trump came about and Brexit came about, and people had enough of the metropolitan elite and all of their teams is rooted in people's opposition to political correctness. That is the hidden, underlying reason that people finally had enough of the elite and after that they could voice all their other policy differnces with them such as immigration, globalisation etc, but the initiating factor was their teams of liars trying to restrict freedom, free speech and free thought.

"Berlusconi opens up about Trump, Putin and the failure of political correctness"

www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/13/berlusconi-opens-up-about-trump-putin-and-the-failure-of-political-correctness/

Political correctness is at the core of everything because they tried to take our freedoms, they thought their teams could take the people's free speech and right to dissent to their nonsense.

"John Cleese: Political Correctness Will Lead To An Orwellian Nightmare"

John Cleese, who is a liberal, recognised it. We all know it and they failed to impose their Orwellian nightmare because Trump, a brash, loud , billionaire bully couldn't be bullied by them, all their media teams, all their Oxbridge teams and all their bought and paid for liars.

I asked what personally would like to be able to say, but is repressed by political correctness?

What are your politically incorrect views?

And is it really common sense to build a wall? Has he not heard of tunnels...

'What are your politically incorrect views?'

A million and one things. My opposition to Cameron's modernisers on nearly every policy they tried to pass like minimum alcohol pricing, turning off of streetlights and hundred and hundreds of other things

Turning off streetlights! Wow - political correctness gone mad that is!

Come on, that's not it really. Give us the juicy stuff - tell us your views on immigration for example...

'tell us your views on immigration for example...'

I believe in controlled immigration rather than uncontrolled access to all of EU citizens. I believe in a points based system where people with skills are prioritised above unskilled workers.

Evening all. Just popping by to let you know that we regard the word r*tard as offensive and disablist and have deleted it a few times in this thread. Where it was quoted by others who were challenging it, we have edited posts to asterisk out some of the letters. Please could we ask everyone to refrain from using that word and do report it to us if you see it. Thanks.

Claig just triggered me with that statement. Off to my hugbox echochamber because my feelz are hurt

So not the deportation of a whole religious group then?

Ah but Ionamumsnet, according to Claig, it's our right to say anything as long as it's not an incitement to violence!

It's political correctness gone mad isn't it Claig - not being able to use disablist language I mean...

The underlying reason that Trump won is because he challenged political correctness and all their teams that try to force it on the people. Once that had been breached, people were free to think outside the box and challenge all the rest of the political class's nonsense on globalisation and everything else. That is why the populist rebellion will topple the politically correct political classes all over Europe - because they tried to take our freedom.

"Trump vs. Political Correctness

Donald Trump won, Reason’s Robby Soave observed the morning after, “because he convinced a great number of Americans that he would destroy political correctness. . . . There is a cost to depriving people of the freedom (in both the legal and social senses) to speak their mind. The presidency just went to the guy whose main qualification, according to his supporters, is that he isn’t afraid to speak his.”

www.wsj.com/articles/trump-vs-political-correctness-1479233123

All teh great and the good, all the Oxbridge teams, all the political class fail to understand the people and their wish for freedom. They should all study George Orwell and read 1984, then they might undertand why they were all beaten by Trump, a political outsider who mocked and insulted the entire political class and thereby won the affection of the people.

They will have to teach this at Oxbridge for their next generation of PPEs and political appointees if they want to try and manage the people, because the last lot didn't have a clue.

"Trump Won Because Leftist Political Correctness Inspired a Terrifying Backlash

What every liberal who didn't see this coming needs to understand

Many will say Trump won because he successfully capitalized on blue collar workers' anxieties about immigration and globalization. Others will say he won because America rejected a deeply unpopular alternative. Still others will say the country is simply racist to its core.

But there's another major piece of the puzzle, and it would be a profound mistake to overlook it. Overlooking it was largely the problem, in the first place.

Trump won because of a cultural issue that flies under the radar and remains stubbornly difficult to define, but is nevertheless hugely important to a great number of Americans: political correctness.

More specifically, Trump won because he convinced a great number of Americans that he would destroy political correctness.

I have tried to call attention to this issue for years. I have warned that political correctness actually is a problem on college campuses, where the far-left has gained institutional power and used it to punish people for saying or thinking the wrong thing. And ever since Donald Trump became a serious threat to win the GOP presidential primaries, I have warned that a lot of people, both on campus and off it, were furious about political-correctness-run-amok—so furious that they would give power to any man who stood in opposition to it."

reason.com/blog/2016/11/09/trump-won-because-leftist-political-corr