Excited about the Labour leadership announcement

[Badgoushk]

For full disclosure I'm a Jeremy Corbyn supporter. I'm quite excited and hopeful that he's won again. Anyone else feeling it?!

what radical change does Corbyn offer that can actually work

those economists that originally supported him and tried to work with him found out and concluded he has no understanding of economics and all and shows no interest

the only people that fear Corbyn and Momentum are those that support labour but do not support him and for some that fear has turned to harassment

who would have believed a year ago that MP's are being harassed to the point they need police protection from those that support their party leader its an absolute disgrace

for other parties to gain more votes Corbyn is great new for the Tories, LibDems, SNP and UKIP he is terrible news for democracy

'He does have large support at rallies and so did Michael Foot.'

Yes, but what is so different now is the disgust with the Establishment that is teh underlying mood of the people that wasn't there in the late 1970s.

We have all lived through the lies, the wars, the banker bailouts, the enriching of Blair and the spinners and we have seen their lies. That is why even young people who ddn't live through it instinctively understand that now we need change and that is why so many of them support Corbyn and Momentum.

This is a tidal wave of demand for change by the public. Corbyn may not be up to the task, he was surprised that the tide carried him to victory over the Establishment Oxbridge graduates in Labour. He is balancing on the surfboard, riding the wave of popular revolt against the centre and its corrupt cronies. If he understands the people, he will win. If the 172 defeat him, he will lose and the peole will look eleswhere for the change that is necessary to sweep the corrupt cronies out of power.

Corbyn and Farage are very similar both agitators

neither interested in working on actual politics just rebelling against the politics worked on and put in place by others

What unites Corbyn and Farage is that they both oppose the Establishment status quo

Agree with this. Unfortunately, a lot of people can't see past this. In the same way, they both oppose the EU - but (put very simply!) Farage because it's a bureaucratic, Socialist hotbed and Corbyn because it's an evil capitalist behemoth. I don't see it - ultimately - as a big threat to mainstream thinking.

'what radical change does Corbyn offer that can actually work

those economists that originally supported him and tried to work with him found out and concluded he has no understanding of economics and all and shows no interest'

That is a good point. Corbyn has been far too weak, far too timid, he hasn't even been able to defeat the 172. It is not certain that Corbyn is up to the task.

Yes, Michael Foot was rejected by the electorate despite his popularity with the Labour Left.

I agree with your assessment Enthusiasm. I also think both are far more concerned with their own personal agenda than 'the greater good'. Much like confidence tricksters or con artists.

'Yes, Michael Foot was rejected by the electorate despite his popularity with the Labour Left.'

Yes because the Labour left are not the majority and they aren't now either because they are politically correct and the majority isn't. But that may not matter if Corbyn is able to articulate a vision that offers the majority enough of what they really want, enough change.

As the Rolling Stones song played at all Trump rallies says "you can't always get what you want", but if you get enough then you will ignore the politically correct craziness and that is the challenge of the Left. Can they offer the people enough of what they want so that they ignore the politically correct nonsense?

Corbyn increased his lead 61.8%, Owen Smith 38.2%

Fantastic news for the entire country. The centre as been defeated. The BBC and all the rest could not stop Labour members. Now Corbyn has to rise to the challenge and offer the entire country what it is really crying out for.

corbyn won 61.8% of the votes

not as high as I feared

Utterly unsurprising result.

RIP opposition party. A sad day for politics.

Same as Kaija, cancelled membership already. Some might say I'm not v patient but I don't understand why so few politicians look like they will consider switching party?
Re: Tory-lite, this country looks to me like only a few tweaks are needed to make it better, so I don't know what is essentially v wrong with Blair's New Labour?

I was really worried it was going to be around 75%

*Jeremy Corbyn has won the Labour leadership contest with 313,309 votes. Challenger Owen Smith got 193,229.

A total of 506,438 cast their votes*

don't cancel

I want to but he hasn't won with the huge majority that I really thought he would if you leave you wont be able to vote for a leader that will stand a good chance against him we all knew Owen didn't stand a chance no one would right now but the cracks are showing. It wont be in the next year but maybe in 2018 and then Labour could still stand a chance of winning an election (slim I know) in 2020 or at least provide a good strong opposition

'Re: Tory-lite, this country looks to me like only a few tweaks are needed to make it better, so I don't know what is essentially v wrong with Blair's New Labour?'

You have increased debt, house prices out of the range of millions, zero-hours contracts, job insecurity, low-wage economy, drop in social mobility, squeezed middle, huge tuition fees, poor care for the elderly, cuts to disability benefits, lack of public investment, people at the mercy of the markets, loss of workers rights', junior doctors striking for the first time ever, welfare system under threat, Manchester threatening to sack all its firefighters unless they accept new contracts, a lack of hope and social mobility for millions, Etonians lecturing the public, bailouts for bankers etc etc

It will take a lot more than Tory-lite and a few tweaks and some "two kitchen" Oxbridge politicians to sort out a better future for the people of the country.

That's made sure Labour don't get elected at the next general election then. My FIL a long time member and supporter of labour has just declared he's cancelling his subscription, he's shocked at the result.

Where are the excited Corbyn supporters of the first few a pages? Please come and tell me why I should vote Labour next time round.

I don't consider the volume of food bank use in this country and the disaster that is our NHS and education system to be 'a few tweaks'.

One party politics? All we've had since 2010 is a choice between varying shades of blue.

We need change.

Sorry Kajia I missed your post upthread. I agree agree, it's worrying.

I'm not sure about whether I want to keep my membership. I'm feeling I should stay because ultimately I want the party to succeed but I'm so worried about the direction of the party now.

I agree so much I said it twice...

Bishop no labour supporters are denying that we need change

just many know that Corbyn is unelectable as a PM and is losing voters support and he isn't unable to lead an opposition

I believe that's down to the infighting making the party unelectable.
Corbyn hasn't had a chance to influence voters without backbiting and mainstream media bias.

Sadly the world doesn't stop while a political party leader tries to get himself up to speed.

Corbyn has already shown who he is and the view of him is already set. Most clearly shown by the fact that 'don't know' is polling higher than him when voters are asked who would be the best PM.

But hey that's just the biased MSM and all opinion polls are rigged don't you know.

Sad day for the country.