What happens if Trump wins?

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I know the comments Trump has made about blocking Muslims from the USA, and building a wall between the states and Mexico. But what will the world look like if he becomes president? People seem to be afraid of his success and suggest we 'should push the button now' or that he will be assassinated. Surely he comments are to stir up media interest?

IMO, the reason the media gives him so much attention isn't for any sinister reason, it's ratings. He's the Kim Kardashian of politics. The shock value brings in higher ratings than proper politics.

We all know Trump has an exceedingly high IQ

Gosh, he does an exceedingly good job of hiding it, I suppose to appeal to the types of people who support him.

Maybe I have figured out the "elites" & "establishment" stuff.
It's all about fairness. The "establishment" think "the system" is fundamentally capable of adequate fairness (with ongoing modifications, fair enough). The elites are the people who A) are doing well and B)don't actively complain or campaign that the system needs immediate radical change.

The anti-establishmentarians have chips on their shoulders, or see huge social injustice.

Trump's supporters are more in the "Almighty chips on shoulder" than caring a toss about social injustice. Sanders supporters worry about injustice. That's why Trump trumpets Armaggeddon, and Sanders talks about a more positive future.

Chips on shoulders:
Farage, Boris, Trump

Mixed:
Leadsome, Gove

Social injustice
Frank Fields, Sanders

Or maybe I'm talking rubbish & the anti-establishment types are merely anarchists & fascists. I guess time will tell.

There's another group of anti-establishment types that are doing a lot of winning lately, and that's the group that see the status quo as an impediment to making unlimited amounts of money. They use the word "establishment" as a cover for the net of regulation, taxation, workers' rights, publicly-owned services etc. that we might see as holding society together, but are certainly an irritation to a certain kind of megalomaniac capitalist. (Of course you might argue that they also have chips on their shoulders, thinking of Arron Banks, Murdoch et al.)

Why are people working so hard to pin point what the establishment or the elites are?
They are just nice rethorical figures to give a name to the enemy and that mosy people automatically assume it's not them.
It works better than groups you can identify and that have a vote, like Muslims or Latinos or Black.
But it works like illegal immigrants who can be blamed for all evils because they can't vote.

Harlem-based black rapper, Azealia Banks, gives Trump a ringing endorsement

"Trump, on the other hand, she said was an 'a**hole,' but he's not part of the 'establishment.'

'Trump just wants the U.S to be lavish.... for all of us. I can f* with that,' she explained."

and about Hillary, she said

'Hillary has been GROOMED for the presidency. she's another one of the establishments robots here to carry out an agenda,' the songstress said of the Democratic frontrunner.'

and she also said in one of her tweets

'In one, she blamed 'the Liberal media' for branding Trump as a 'symbol of hatred.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3581147/Azealia-Banks-endorses-Trump-says-Hillary-Clinton-talks-black-people-children-pets.html

So basically the whole establishment thing is paranoid. It's just the absurdly wealthy not giving a shit, the wealthy worrying about taxes, and the middle class/poor wanting the exact opposite.

That's not a thing Claig, that's every election ever

It's particularly interesting that Trump is so highly invested in becoming part of the political establishment. As in those that are in power within official bodies.

Because he already is part of the financial elite and establishment or at least has wanted to be perceived as such. Perhaps he could be called an enfant terrible within elites and establishment, but he's firmly one of them and has always wanted to be seen as one and an important one at that. Being President would definitively confirm his elite and establishment credentials.

Why? Because he doesn't listen to people. He doesn't care what people feel or do. He wants to tell them. Only what he says is important.
He lives and breaths elite and establishment.

On another aspect, he has depended so much on banks that I'm sure he owes big favour, indeed the greatest favours if not the best favours. He's no better than other politicians, and just or more vulnerable.

*Paranoia

'That's not a thing Claig, that's every election ever'

Special, you are absolutely right and that is why this election is so interesting in that for the first time ever this game is going to end. Trump intends to end all their dreams and all their schemes which is why they are in such shock. Davos doesn't know what to do about Trump, they have met their match.

I'll quote Madonna and ask:
Who's that girl (rapper)?

From all the massive support Hillary has among blacks and arts related people, that one is significant? Why?

Davos doesn't know what to do about Trump, they have met their match.

Clearly they do, if Hillary is and has consistently been ahead in polls.
Trump being an unstoppable force is another of his and your myths.

The "Washington outsider" thing is huge in USA. I never got it.
It actually counts hugely against Clinton that she is hugely experienced in politics at the highest level. Americans vastly prefer amateurs, mavericks and outsiders. Which is good for innovation, but not so good when someone has the codes to the nuclear weapons.

But Trump has supposedly been an expert and told Washington people what to do for years.
Including his back-dated and imaginary criticism of the invasion of Iraq.
It's funny how people buy his I'm better than anyone and you, but I'm just one of you, not like other millionaires or politicians.

Harlem-based black rapper, Azealia Banks, gives Trump a ringing endorsement

So what...? Am I missing something?

Random 'black rapper' endorses Trump. Is this the best he can do, in terms of 'black' (African American?) support...?

If you're reduced to naming names of his puddle of 'black' support, that says it all, surely.

It's funny how people buy his I'm better than anyone and you, but I'm just one of you, not like other millionaires or politicians

I know! It's completely hypocritical yet his fans are oblivious to his contrary bullshit

We all know Trump has an exceedingly high IQ

Just another of his lies, I'm afraid. Like the tax returns, he's strangely reluctant to produce evidence.

Azealia Banks isn't known for her intellect.
Mind you neither is Trump.

Perhaps trump thinks IQ stands for ignorance quota!

'Russians predict further attacks on Clinton's campaign HQ - immunity offered to hackers'

www.scmagazine.com/clinton-hackers-a-proxy-for-the-russian-fsb/article/514320/

Before we get bogged too far down in a discussion of trump's iq, it might be worth reminding ourselves that not everyone one encounters on Internet forums are here for the chat.

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

It would be naive to think that the Russians haven't been trying to hack or hacking US government and candidates accounts. Either the government agencies or proxies.

In fact, it almost makes me think that Putin could have something on Trump, giving that The Donald is so pro-Vladimir.

Kajia, yes, I've often wondered about the times that some people post at when seemingly UK based. This applies to all political opinions and lobbyists.

"“First thing in the morning, we’d come in, turn on a proxy server to hide our real location, and then read the technical tasks we had been sent,” he said."

The former head of the CIA said on Fox that he thinks a number of foreign intelligence agencies will have hacked Hillary's emails and have them.

A National Security Agency whistleblower has said that he thinks the NSA has got all of Hillary's emails (including the 33,000 deleted ones)

"Binney floated that someone at the NSA could be behind the Democratic National Committee hack that embarrassed Democrats last week
The motive would be to get back at Clinton for leaking 'Gamma material' - the most highly sensitive material - via her private email server"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3720049/NSA-whistleblower-says-spy-agency-Hillary-Clinton-s-deleted-emails-government-database.html

It all really depends on what comes out in the next 3 months and that depends on who is protecting whom etc.

Kaija

I've long been aware of that and have posted about it on MN.
And about my suspicions too. :)