Could somebody explain why Corbyn shouldn't be voted for as Labour party leader?

[Myturnnow4]

I've listened to people argue this, but haven't heard a reasoned argument yet. The main criticism appears to be, "he's on the left" but don't go on to explain why that in itself is a bad thing.

We might not want to go back to the 70s, but with an EU referendum coming up and only 3 non SNP MPs in Scotland, we can't go back to the nineties and 2000's either.

I think we will have to wait for the political landscape to shake out before a really viable Tory challenger can be identified.

This is a good blogpost by a former ambassador on the myth of the unelectable left.

High Five to Notechnologicalbreakdown
To what you said, and good link.

The corporate media and establishment are trying to crush corbyn and any "leftist" anti-plutocratic thinking through fear mongering.

It is up to us as real people to overcome their power through means of word-of-mouth social media etc.

The Oxbridge establishment and their media bed buddies are conning us for their own advantage.

The People are Revolting ! Vote Corbyn 2020 !

The reason Greece under Socialist Syriza has accepted even worse bailot conditions than offered six months ago is because they unanimously do not want to leave the EU and by a majority want to keep the Euro. We are in the fortunate position of being out of both the Euro and Schengen and to leave the EU would mean having to accept the latter and losing jobs overnight. The Labour MEPs are currently in Socialists and Democrats grouping in the European Parliament.

But you have proved my point claig. You are the UKIP supporter who wants to take over the Labour Party.

'You are the UKIP supporter who wants to take over the Labour Party.'

And after the Labour Party, the world.

claig psst you forgot the Mwa Ha Ha, the magic doesn't work without an evil cackle.

Yes, along with growing concern voiced by Jewish Labour MPs, maybe we will go back to the 1930s rather than the 1980s or 1970s.

Or perhaps you will tire of Corbyn as quickly as you fell out with Farage, once you have wrecked our futures on the EU. He will not get elected and the Tories will be in place to rebuild all the bilateral trade agreements. Their version of the TTIF would of course go much further. They would of course repeal all the social legislation too.

Lumpy, I should have ended it with the dramatic sound sample you once had, da, da, da!

straggle, did you read the article

"It’s Corbyn or catastrophe for Labour."

Don't you realise that nobody will vote for Blair, Burnham, Cooper and Kendall any more, not even Labour party members. The whole country has had enough and next they will have enough of the Tories.

With JC at the helm and the proposed boundary/reduction of MPs Labour can look forward to '175' seats in the new 600 seat parliament circa 2020/25 !.

The proposed boundary and seat reductions do not 'favour' the Labour party in any way ! If the proposed changes go through the Labour party would lose as many as '30'seats whereas the Conservatives lose as little as '6'.

So lets imagine for some 'miracle' Corbyn loses no 'seats' Labour are therefore down to 200 seats the Conservatives even losing 17 seats to UKIP/LIB DEMS still have 300 seats and a majority. However, JC would lose the Labour party such seats as Chester , Wirral West and possibly Newcastle Under Lyme (Tristam's Hunts seat) to the Conservatives.

Stoke on Trent as well as other North Midland and North West traditional Labour seats under threat from UKIP , Requiring as little as a 5% further shift fro Labour to fall to UKIP.

The real state of affairs for Jeremy Corbyn led Labour party in to the 2020 General election will be at 'best ' Labour reduced to 200 seats at worst as little as 175 seats.

Sorry meant to say Conservatives could lose 27 seats and still have a majority in a 600 seat parliament !

sunshield, Corbyn may even have the courage to go for PR voting, which would leave Cameron exposed as the only one advocating the status quo. There are lots of Labour voters in the South of England but currently their votes don't count.

The status quo has collapsed, the centre is collapsing, Blair is a tired old spinner, we have a new politics and the metropolitan elite are in shock at what the people are showing that they prefer.

'Andrew Marr: British politics is broken – the centre cannot hold

“None of the above” is a great war cry – but our apathy and rejection of the mainstream parties are likely to lead to chaos and instability.'

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/andrew-marr-british-politics-broken-centre-cannot-hold

Andrew Marr thinks it is doom and gloom. But he is metropoltan elite, Oxbridge, BBC, old school, old ways, Establishment, great and the good.

It is bad news for the metropolitan ellte - no more Blair, but it is good news for the people - no more Blair.

"Corbyn is antithesis of `plastic' Blairites"

www.irishnews.com/opinion/columnists/2015/08/05/news/corbyn-is-antithesis-of-plastic-blairites-211856/

That is why Corbyn is popular. He is for us, not them.

You can't turn the TV on without seeing them, the servants, trashing Corbyn, calling people 'morons', saying that decent lifelong Labour members 'need a heart transplant'.

They are desperate, its all hands to the deck - Stop Corbyn, stop the people. Servants of all stripes have been called upon, former ministers and current ones - Stop Corbyn, save Sure Start is what they have all been coached to say.

Remember the Jewish Chronicle is trying to smear Corbyn because he is anti-zionist, not anti-Semitic. The jewish fear mongering wont wash either.

Claig for leader! or was it JC i cant remember anymore ?

The establishment don't want Corbyn that's a certainty. I heard he is anti royal. I applaud him for that. How can you be a sociaist and support the idea of a royal family. He is a genuine socialist. And not many of that lot are.

Let's work on the Windsors next absolutely.

Corbyn might be good for the short term, in winning back some seats from the SNP, then hand them over to the next Labour leader.

Corbyn represents Labour's hot dirty shag. For years they sided with the nice guy, nice smile, steady job for once rather than always drawing dole, bringing home the bacon in a nice detatched house, shame about the sex nu but he's good with the kids and but Christ why does he have to be so fucking dull? Later she finds out he was involved in dodgy dealing or was never that committed anyway. Along comes an old flame that's reignited.

That's Corbyn. It's a hot dirty shag, a chance to reconnect, a fling for old time's sake after years of compromise, gritting your teeth and putting up with the niceness of the other guy. Who suddenly seems to be out of a job/not so electable after all.

As much as I despise UKIP and all they stand for it was disgusting that they had so many votes which weren't converted into any form of representation.

'LABOUR leadership hopeful Jeremy Corbyn has said critics who have resorted to personal abuse and attacks on his character are “nervous about the power of democracy”.'

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/jeremy-corbyn-critics-nervous-about-power-of-democracy-1-3857421

Corbyn is all about democracy. He will bring democracy to the Labour Party and that will be the end of the Blairites. Corbyn is a man of principle, he doesn't change his principles to win elections, he is true to what he believes.

What if he decides to bring democracy, not just to the Labour Party, but to the whole country by giving us PR voting where every person's vote counts no matter where they live?

That is what frightens the metropolitan elite, that is what will frighten the Tories and the Labour elite who serve the metropolitan elite.

A party that served the interests of the combined numbers of the working class and middle class could not lose an election. No tricks, no speeches, no name calling, no bigwigs lecturing the public could stop it.

If only they had shown some of that venom towards Milliband who was a total twit and entirely unelectable. I hope Corbyn does win. Might shake up the lot of them.

Hahahaha Corbyn a "hot dirty shag"

Corbyn's speech scaring the daylights out of the metropolitan elite

“The poor, the vulnerable, the weak deserve a political system that works for them and helps them.

“The rich, the powerful that benefit so much from our political system, don’t care what kind of name calling goes on providing their tax breaks go on.

“I’ve got news for them. We’re offering something very different in this campaign and it’s gaining amazing levels of support.”

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/jeremy-corbyn-critics-nervous-about-power-of-democracy-1-3857421

'it’s gaining amazing levels of support'

That's why every has-been, could have been, may be and wannabe has been asked to appear on TV to bring Labour party members to their senses and save the metropolitan elite.

I'd suggest with male charmers like this in the Labour Party, it may, just may, be time for a FEMALE leadership as a 'change' for the better.

John Prescott denies sexual assault on MP's wife because she's 'built like bloody barn door'

”Peer and former deputy prime minister vehemently denies allegations that he stuck his hand up a former MP Austin Mitchell's wife's skirt, saying “the f**cking house” would have fallen down if he had.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11804053/john-prescott-denies-sex-assault-mp-wife.html

So because John Prescott is sexist then that means all the men in the Labour party are right?

Um, have you looked at the Tories lately IsItmebut? cough Ken Clarke cough